On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 11:36:00 +1100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 1)    Dreamweaver templates - Yes or No
> No - Reason, its better to learn the old skool approach vs letting an IDE
> dictate how you bring it all together.

If you're doing a completely static (HTML) site, DW templates are very
useful but as Mike and Scott say, if you're doing a dynamic CFML site
then you're better off using <cfinclude> and building standard layouts
(both Fusebox and Mach II will help here).

> > I'm working in Dreamweaver. I see lots of people talking
> > about HomeSite and others (Eclipse?) but I'm comfortable in
> > DW.

I used to do all of my CFML in DW. Now I do all of my CFCs in Eclipse
(CFEclipse) and my presentation layer in DW since it has such a good
visual layout mode and CSS support.

> Yeah, peters using fusebox which is basically a framework setup to
> accommodate most overlap situations. Theres kind of two flavours in that
> regard, FuseBox4 (which I think is more suited to your needs - based on the
> current info) or Mach-II. Mach-II is my personal favourite as its more
> tailored to an OO approach (if its possible). Having said that FB4 in itself
> is not exactly a cutdown version as it appears.

If you're new to programming, Mach II will be very overwhelming. I use
- and advocate - both frameworks. Fusebox 4 has a much easier learning
curve and will provide structure to really help you make your code
maintainable.

> Get to know the framework if you want to do this, as it will not only save
> you some time in what I call "pioneering" but it will be a good start to
> learn from, in that get a perspective on how others write code and make use
> of various "patterns" in their code. Most importantly though it will open
> your mindset into code-reuse.

Join the Fusebox forums - there's a good Getting Started forums where
newbie questions are welcomed:

http://www.fusebox.org/

You can also find out more about both frameworks here:

http://www.corfield.org/fusebox/
http://www.corfield.org/machii/

> If you have a 20k application.cfm it will be condesed at compile time. I at
> this point cannot say for certain, but I'm pretty sure that the
> application.cfm is basically converted to a java based class of some kind
> which will cut away a lot of the fat - basically its condesed to binary as
> opposed to a open ASCII file.

It is compiled to Java bytecode, as is all CFML.
-- 
Sean A Corfield -- http://www.corfield.org/
Team Fusebox -- http://www.fusebox.org/
Breeze Me! -- http://www.corfield.org/breezeme

"If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive."
-- Margaret Atwood

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