Andrew

"this forum is designed for people to talk about solutions, problems and
technologies to suit the environment they are working in."

Exactly and I agree.  From your initial post I was not aware that you were
trying to fix someonthing someone else may have done or you had particular
constraints, so why wouldn't someone offer a different method of doing
something.

In the end it comes down to either taking on what someone suggests or not.
I am sure it was not said to have a go at you, but more of a general comment
on how you could be doing something in particular, such as your issue.

There are many many ways to do many many things.

I mean you could have gone parent.document.forms[0].Test.checked or
parent.document.formName.Test.checked or
parent.document.forms[0].elements[23].checked

All that was is a suggesttion on how to do something, not a direct attack on
you

Enough said

Steve

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Steve,

The problem is that when someone posts to the list they are looking for a
solution or help on their problem, if someone wants to later turn around and
say that its best practice to do it this way and not that then that is
great.

But instead of comments made like:

er yeah .all.Test.checked heh

'using .all is MS code, one should access the objects in a W3C manner by
using document.getElementById("Test") '

This is not saying it is best practice, that is having a dig at someone for
not being able to do best practice due to other reasons. This is what has
been driving me a little made when posting on this forum, because you get
all the people chime in and its best to do it this way or update to this,
but stop and think for a moment there are reasons for everything.

And the reason here is that others will also be in the same position, so
regardless of whether your comment or other peoples comments are marked as
its good to tell others about best practices is a load of crap. There are
websites and information that people can search for on best practices, this
forum is designed for people to talk about solutions, problems and
technologies to suit the environment they are working in.

People post here to get a solution to a project that is maybe more ancient
than the when best practice was created, and don't have the time to make the
necessary changes. I have been a member of this list from the day it was
created, and peoples attitude has not changed and we continue to see it on a
weekly basis. Like I said the posts about coldfusion 5 was the same, they
didn't have a choice and look at the response to that by people who couldn't
upgrade and were stuck to use the technology and code that they had to use.
This is the same and people out there have to wake up and realise that they
might be able to always use best practice, or they might always be able to
use the latest and greatest. But this is the real world and this is not
practical in every situation, the point here is that before making a post
stop and think about the situation this person is in, stop and think about
what that person is actually asking.

Whether it be best practice or a solution to older technology, then there is
a reason for them to do it there way, and that is what best practice doesn't
cater for. These posters want to know a solution to that problem, and don't
need to here best practice or you should have done this or best to upgrade
to fix that.

Most of you have been here long enough to know that you could be developing
under MX 7.0 today, and next month you will be developing under CF 5.0 and
then you'll be the one in the position of dealing with other peoples code,
and asking the simple thing of fixing something without wanting to here you
should have done it this way.

I have rambled on long enough and vented the frustration that others have
been feeling for a long time, a lot of left this list because of these
reasons.


Regards
Andrew Scott
Technical Consultant

NuSphere Pty Ltd
Level 2/33 Bank Street
South Melbourne, Victoria, 3205

Phone: 03 9686 0485  -  Fax: 03 9699 7976




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