Andrew,

1. I'm all about learning best practice.  This whole general open forum
is cool like that.  Next time, maybe they can word it better, like "I
know you probably were aware of this Andrew, but Chad over there is a
stoopid Yankee and needs all the help he can get."

2. Actually, I post questions here because I get answers tons faster
than if I scoured the net or help doco like I should.

3. Finally, I am commenting here in case this thread does get catalogued
as a classic, I want my name in here.  ;)

Chad

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Steve,

The problem is that when someone posts to the list they are looking for
a solution or help on their problem, if someone wants to later turn
around and say that its best practice to do it this way and not that
then that is great.

But instead of comments made like:

er yeah .all.Test.checked heh

'using .all is MS code, one should access the objects in a W3C manner by
using document.getElementById("Test") ' 

This is not saying it is best practice, that is having a dig at someone
for not being able to do best practice due to other reasons. This is
what has been driving me a little made when posting on this forum,
because you get all the people chime in and its best to do it this way
or update to this, but stop and think for a moment there are reasons for
everything.

And the reason here is that others will also be in the same position, so
regardless of whether your comment or other peoples comments are marked
as its good to tell others about best practices is a load of crap. There
are websites and information that people can search for on best
practices, this forum is designed for people to talk about solutions,
problems and technologies to suit the environment they are working in.

People post here to get a solution to a project that is maybe more
ancient than the when best practice was created, and don't have the time
to make the necessary changes. I have been a member of this list from
the day it was created, and peoples attitude has not changed and we
continue to see it on a weekly basis. Like I said the posts about
coldfusion 5 was the same, they didn't have a choice and look at the
response to that by people who couldn't upgrade and were stuck to use
the technology and code that they had to use. This is the same and
people out there have to wake up and realise that they might be able to
always use best practice, or they might always be able to use the latest
and greatest. But this is the real world and this is not practical in
every situation, the point here is that before making a post stop and
think about the situation this person is in, stop and think about what
that person is actually asking.

Whether it be best practice or a solution to older technology, then
there is a reason for them to do it there way, and that is what best
practice doesn't cater for. These posters want to know a solution to
that problem, and don't need to here best practice or you should have
done this or best to upgrade to fix that.

Most of you have been here long enough to know that you could be
developing under MX 7.0 today, and next month you will be developing
under CF 5.0 and then you'll be the one in the position of dealing with
other peoples code, and asking the simple thing of fixing something
without wanting to here you should have done it this way.

I have rambled on long enough and vented the frustration that others
have been feeling for a long time, a lot of left this list because of
these reasons.

 
Regards
Andrew Scott
Technical Consultant

NuSphere Pty Ltd
Level 2/33 Bank Street
South Melbourne, Victoria, 3205

Phone: 03 9686 0485  -  Fax: 03 9699 7976




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