Provided a document is XHTML compliant (ie validates 100%) shouldn't that be enough for Accessibility compliance
in that if it passes XHTML checks, it can also be accepted as simple old XML. I've not done a full 508 compliance as yet, nor do i really look forward to that.. but to me, if i can be considered XML then wtf.. TABLES are standard compliant tags, even in XHTML (the new breed) according to w3c themselves. Accessibility clients that use XHTML could disregard visuals and focus on the content? *shrug* this is above my paygrade and now i must defer to the wisdom of others ;) FLEX... ?accessibility=true. love it. On 5/13/05, Gorst, Nick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The point about using Div tags and CSS is that it is standards compliant, > according to W3c > > "Tables should not be used purely as a means to layout document content as > this may present problems when rendering to non-visual media. Additionally, > when used with graphics, these tables may force users to scroll horizontally > to view a table designed on a system with a larger display. To minimize these > problems, authors should use style sheets to control layout rather than > tables". > > Maybe not a big issue for everyone but if you want your site to be passed by > accessibility checkers and validators it is important not to use tables other > than for the specified uses of tabular data and forms. > > As I said it may not be a big issue here on OZ but in the US people get sued > for less. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Scott > Barnes > Sent: Friday, 13 May 2005 3:36 PM > To: CFAussie Mailing List > Subject: [cfaussie] Re: OT: [best practice or your practice] CSS vs. > Tables > > My 2c. > > Tables support valignment. > > enough said..... > > You can have CSS layout certain screens with some serious screwing > around, and in the end? what is the payoff. I've seen blind CSS > disciples of THOOK preech and come close to having blows over TABLES > vs Positioning and the key thing that gets really neglected a lot is > this: > > Tables are XHTML compliant. So this whole b.s about the pro's / con's > of using them is basically a Ford vs Holden argument. > > Tables used in Layouts can be worthwhile, but you run the risk of > making your entire UI Layout positioning / control less agile if you > were to simply use DIVS. > > That being said, the chances of you have a 1 HTML code block and 50 > CSS styles/kins is freakin small. > > On top of that, if we really wanted to go down the path of being > "pure" and "lurve" with CSS, then if a damn well freakin browser(s) > fully supported the table-row, table-cell properties properly we > wouldn't be having thine debate. > > in that you could use div tags to emulate what TABLE tags do now, by > symply reclassifying their properties to inherit the above properties > correctly .. *pant*. > > Its why i love flex.. no more of this silly CSS debates. > > :) > > > On 5/13/05, Steve Onnis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > it was more in reference to the "completely table-free" comment. > > > > Not hangin it on the work > > > > Takes alot of time to get a site working like that > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Brett > > Payne-Rhodes > > Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 2:30 PM > > To: CFAussie Mailing List > > Subject: [cfaussie] Re: OT: [best practice or your practice] CSS vs. > > Tables > > > > Picky or what... ;) > > > > And I think it was suggested that forms were an 'OK' use of tables... > > > > B) > > > > Steve Onnis wrote: > > > table free hey? > > > > > > Anyone look at the contact page? > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Chad > > > Renando > > > Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 1:32 PM > > > To: CFAussie Mailing List > > > Subject: [cfaussie] Re: OT: [best practice or your practice] CSS vs. > > > Tables > > > > > > > > > > > >>Tom MacKean > > >>Who has just finished a completely table-free and hack-free site at > > >>www.sydneyivf.com > > >> > > > > > > > > >>From the site comments... > > > "Many thanks to members of cfaussie list." > > > > > > Your welcome. > > > > > > Chad > > > who reads source code > > > > > > --- > > > You are currently subscribed to cfaussie as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Aussie Macromedia Developers: http://lists.daemon.com.au/ > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > > You are currently subscribed to cfaussie as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Aussie Macromedia Developers: http://lists.daemon.com.au/ > > > > > > > -- > > Brett Payne-Rhodes > > Eaglehawk Computing > > t: +61 (0)8 9371-0471 > > f: +61 (0)8 9371-0470 > > m: +61 (0)414 371 047 > > e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > w: www.ehc.net.au > > > > --- > > You are currently subscribed to cfaussie as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Aussie Macromedia Developers: http://lists.daemon.com.au/ > > > > --- > > You are currently subscribed to cfaussie as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Aussie Macromedia Developers: http://lists.daemon.com.au/ > > > > -- > Regards, > Scott Barnes > http://www.mossyblog.com > http://www.flexcoder.com (Coming Soon) > > --- > You are currently subscribed to cfaussie as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Aussie Macromedia Developers: http://lists.daemon.com.au/ > > Please Note: > > This communication has been sent on behalf of The Royal Automobile Club of > Queensland Limited (RACQ). 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