thanks guys.

likewise Andrew. i'll try and be nicer next time we get to flaming... ;P

thanks for the perspective on cf + java. i've got basic java skills as
it was what i was doing before getting sucked into the cf realm - this
was java2 and it was making me puke with it's clunky engineering style
UI components. rumour has that it's better but... i'm yet to see
proof... ;P

btw safefrombees.com is 404.
G

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