You also need to include the cost of the J2EE server as well as CFMX, but like you said the point is mute.

Sorry, I don't know of any hosts of hand.

-Matt

On Friday, August 1, 2003, at 01:44 PM, Adam Wayne Lehman wrote:

30 sites between $25-30/month seems profitable enough for one box.
($750-900/month).

But it's still a pretty mute point. If the site's data is mission
critical or just plain private, you are obviously not going to outsource
to shared hosting. Shared hosting to me is for marketing based sites
and/or non-critical applications. If a company has enough money to _pay_
for an application, they will not be cutting corners on the server. (For
speed and stability issues alone)


Matt do you know of any hosts who offer secure j2EE shared hosting? I'm
curious as to prices and what not.

Adam Wayne Lehman
Web Systems Developer
Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health
Distance Education Division


-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Liotta Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 5:04 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: RES: [CFCDev] CF hosting provider?

You are correct in that regard except for one subtle point. The shear
amount of overhead required to give each customer their own instance of
CFMX on a J2EE server makes shared hosting unprofitable in terms of the
normal shared hosting economics.

Just to break it down with numbers. Each CFMX instance is supposed to
take about 30megs of RAM each. Since it is generally tough for an
application to use more than 1gig of RAM on a 32bit machine that means
only about 30 people could be hosted on the same machine.

-Matt

On Thursday, July 31, 2003, at 04:56 PM, Samuel Neff wrote:


Certainly CFMX 4 J2EE can be secured just as well as any Java app can since that's what it is, and with the multiple CFMX instances support this would be great for middle-tier shared hosting (between regular shared and co-location).

Can I have dibs on the intro for your new website?  Got to hit the
archives
for some of your more memorable quotes.. :-)

Sam

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-----Original Message-----
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Suggesting that a badly configured system will always be insecure avoids the whole point. The question is can a shared hosting environment be secure. Well it depends on the application server. Can you do it with Java? Yes! Can you do it with CFMX? No!

And since you have so much free time to criticize me, I expect a "I
hate Matt" web site launch shortly. ;)

-Matt

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