While I agree in spirit let's not be too hard on them.

Yes, the beta program (oops- sorry Adam, "programme"  You crazy people and
your extra letters! ;^) ) is no place to make architecture changes, but
that's far from the other outlet.

Most of the new features of CF are customer suggestions/requests.  The
wishlist is public and there were many pre-beta previews, focus groups and
other opportunities for input.  I remember sessions at DevCon three years
ago for Neo.

I do wish that the process was more formalized.  I'd prefer to see CFML
open-sourced or at least have a formal, open specification but lacking that
I think there's a lot that can be done to borrow from those processes even
for a closed-source system.

Still - it's not like they NEVER talk to us.

Jim Davis

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of Matt Liotta
> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 12:48 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [CFCDev] More CFMX Excellence with Component Inheritance
> 
> > There *was* a pretty comprehensive beta programme, though.  And a lot
> > of
> > what I noticed was sorted out by the time CFMX was released, with the
> > bulk of the rest being sorted in the 6.1 release.
> >
> A beta program is for weeding out bugs; not making design changes. By
> the time the community was involved it was already too late. There is a
> long history in the software industry of customers knowing a vendor's
> product better than the vendor. The CFML community is no different in
> that the people best able to lead changes to the actual language don't
> work for Macromedia. Let the product managers think up new
> functionality; leave the core language to the community or at least to
> a process that involves the community.
> 
> -Matt
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