Well thanks for all the input. I suppose we'll have to make our own assessment of what existing Java code libraries can be leveraged via Struts, the expected growth of the applications, and whether we want to continue to fight a battle against stale perceptions about CF, adherence to corporate standards and the like.
One thing that would be interesting to discuss is the use of Mach-ii as a back end for Flex applications. It would seem to me that some of what Mach-ii is able to do on the presentation layer (certain implicit invocations, for example) would be better addressed by Flex itself. So the question becomes where to draw the line. Sean, I would guess you are uniquely in a position to discuss this. Having done a great deal of CF and Flash development as well as some JSP, my ambition at this point in my career is to "understand" how to make the best architecture decisions. Yes, I found that many decisions I have ended up making are expressed in the Core J2EE Patterns docs, and that's always a nice validation, but it took too long to reach the conclusion. Sean, you have done an admirable job in the Mach-ii Development Guide, but by constraints of time alone it is nearly impossible to provide (in that context) the full conceptual underpinning of the decisions you've made, architectually speaking. What seems to be missing is a defined path of learning in this area. Yes, many have written and pontificated on it, but there are points were a controlled linear path of learning is the best way to go. And I wonder where that linear path is available, if it even is. Lastly, it's too bad that there isn't a book out on Mach-ii as yet. It would speed adoption. A huge selling point for a framework is good available documentation. FB4 is quite a viable choice for certain contexts for exactly this reason. Jeff Battershall Application Development Consultant Dow Jones Indexes [EMAIL PROTECTED] (609) 520-5637 (p) (484) 477-9900 (c) -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Doug James Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 9:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CFCDev] Mach-ii vs. Struts AMEN! Alexander Sherwood wrote: >At 05:27 PM 6/10/2004, you wrote: > > > >>I agree that Struts is overkill. However, I think always using a >>framework of some kind is important because I have yet to find a >>simple web application that doesn't get more complex as time goes on. >>Much easier to put the framework in upfront than later. >> >>-Matt >> >> > > >Can I get an "Amen"?! > >---------------------------------------------------------- >You are subscribed to cfcdev. To unsubscribe, send an email >to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the words 'unsubscribe cfcdev' >in the message of the email. > >CFCDev is run by CFCZone (www.cfczone.org) and supported >by Mindtool, Corporation (www.mindtool.com). > >An archive of the CFCDev list is available at >www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- You are subscribed to cfcdev. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the words 'unsubscribe cfcdev' in the message of the email. CFCDev is run by CFCZone (www.cfczone.org) and supported by Mindtool, Corporation (www.mindtool.com). An archive of the CFCDev list is available at www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ---------------------------------------------------------- You are subscribed to cfcdev. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the words 'unsubscribe cfcdev' in the message of the email. CFCDev is run by CFCZone (www.cfczone.org) and supported by Mindtool, Corporation (www.mindtool.com). An archive of the CFCDev list is available at www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
