Well... I value your input... but as I said, it is more of a religious
belief than a defined belief. We live in a culture where even the question
of marriage definitions are standing in question. Yet, you dogmatically
define this as an absolute. Heh... I will continue to glean from your
writings, you have much to offer and in areas you definitely know more than
me. Yet, I am not much of a respecter of persons... so "I disagree" is
merely a statement... give me some facts.

Today is a history day with X-Prize possibly being in the reach of the first
winner! Conventional thinking and following rigid standards weren't thrown
to the wind by this crew. They were also not "stuck to the patterns of the
past". What they did was "evaluated" when and where to apply the patterns.
That is what I am talking about, and it is a bit self ingratiating to just
say I disagree. How about some dialog or references to the issue of
frameworks... rather than strict adherence to truths in external realms.

>It's why the Mach II team are looking very closely at the (mistaken) choice
to use request scope as a data bus. It was a bad decision and it can lead to
poorly encapsulated code.

Hey... a poor implementation doesn't prove the concept to be bad! And if
this was such a bad idea, why didn't you blow the horn sooner? Aren't you
one of the main supporters of Mach II? Glad to hear that you are changing
things where there are issues. Yet, if there aren't errors... what is the
actual issue.

NOTE: I would also agree with you that using a request based "data bus" ...
like that term, very good declaration of the issue... could be an issue. My
bigger question... is there a variable coding guideline in Mach II, good and
bad variable usage principles. Does Mach II have a Framework that covers API
rules from coding methodology to presentation layer variable rules and
techniques? That is how I term Framework... it helps for us to define our
terms... if there is a better term for that, I don't know what it is. That
is what I refer to by the term. Linux and Windows are two examples of very
rich frameworks.

John Farrar

-----Original Message-----
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Subject: Re: [CFCDev] Function Libraries

On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 18:28:15 -0400, John D Farrar
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I disagree.

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