no.

FWIW, I AM installing the SDK along with MX... I can't remember the
last project I worked that DIDN'T have some Java code interleaved with
it. Also, many (not all) of the design patterns and best practice from
the Java world apply directly to CFC-based development. The nice thing
is we (usually) don't have to write as much boiler-plate code.

I believe it's good to think about a project's *abstract* architecture
way before a programming language for the implementation of that
architecture is actually chosen. I worked on one of my current projects
for 3 months before CF was finally agreed upon as the primary
development platform (even though a plethora of FOSS java libraries and
projects will be utilized).

-Dave

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4/5/2005 2:20:58 AM >>>
Is it me, or does anyone else feel like we are making ye-ol CFMX work
like Java tooo much since we got it out of the shrink wrap.

I know it serves a purpose, but when i approach a problem with some
co-developers-in-around-my-community-and-i-know-via-world-wide-web
they always refute a claim with "but in java..." or "well in java
we.."

I feel like going "yah well if i wanted java, i'd be installing java
sdk instead of cfmx..no well thxu stfu plz."

Just a left field observation. Next week's topic: "Why are we taking a
perfectly good language and making another add-on language set out of
XML to use with that said language".

:)


On Apr 5, 2005 3:50 PM, Sean Corfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Apr 4, 2005 9:31 PM, Scott Barnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > ie DG/DAO is getting to the points of religion now, I know a couple
of
> > devs who are blindly using them because of this list.... yet they
> > don't realise it....hrm...... that can't be good.. i too suckled
on
> > the teet that which is pure OO patterns and it took an
intervention
> > from Spike to show me the way of a new religion.
> 
> Yeah, that's why I took the examples out of the Mach II Development
> Guide - people were following them religiously without really
> analyzing why. I was guilty of pushing OO heavily at first (within
the
> CF world) because I've been doing it for over a dozen years now and
it
> is pretty much second nature - so I thought I was trying to help.
But
> I came to realize that folks were blindly following various
> recommendations without understanding them and therefore using them
> inappropriately.
> 
> These days, I'm much more likely to try to offer *multiple* options
> rather than a single "best" option (my catchphrase seems to be "it
> depends") and I'm trying to get folks to approach problems as "get
it
> working the work on getting it right" by refactoring code later on
> when they feel comfortable with it.
> 
> Hence my comment "heck why not just <cfinclude> the file?" Quick and
> dirty but likely to get the job done in a way that folks understand.
> --
> Sean A Corfield -- http://corfield.org/ 
> Team Fusebox -- http://fusebox.org/ 
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> 
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> -- Margaret Atwood
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Regards,
Scott Barnes
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