as someone who installed a non-prof/open-source licensed instance of
Atlassian's Confluence today, I must say I agree. I'm not sure how many
of you have seen this tool (or JIRA for issue-tracking), but you'll
probably be impressed. I'll look into whether I can use my Confluence
instance for such a topic.

For those in the dark, check out http://www.atlassian.com/

-Dave

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/05/05 6:33 PM >>>
i like the idea of a wiki for oo cf.

i raised the question on cf-talk several days ago about whether the
community needed a devoted discussion area for oo concepts and was
referred
to cfcdev.

i signed up right away and have been reading the posts, er, religiously,
so
to speak ;)

since then i've been researching other oo-related communities and have
seen
wiki's that are fantastic resources for picking up on all the oo-lingo
and
design patters, etc.  

they often serve as historical chronicles on emerging oo trends and
provide
a great deal of background which is both interesting and pertinent -
overall, they've been a great resource to supplement the discussions
that go
on here within the cf community.

and, as wiki's, they make it very easy for potential oo-acolytes to
explore
the meanings of unfamiliar terms.

i referenced this site in cf-talk (i think) last week, but i'll point it
out
here again as an example of what i'm talking about...

http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?WelcomeVisitors (welcome and overview)
http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?DesignPatterns  (intro to design patterns)

which purports to be the oldest known wiki, created in 1995 (tons of
info!)

brian

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf
Of Cliff Meyers
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 12:15 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [CFCDev] CF, OO, and CFCs

I think it would be silly be have a separate list for OO-design and CFCs

because the two are far too closely linked.  Whenever you have a vibrant

community there seems to be an eventual move to fracture it based on 
differences that exist, but it rarely works out for the best!

I think the best compromise is to respond in kind to the question asked.

  If it's a simple straightforward question - even if the approach 
doesn't seem really sound - it might be best to answer it concisely and 
then add, "however that might not be the best design."  See if the 
person bites and asks for more info.  What might frustrate a lot of new 
users is when people launch into lengthy posts explaining all kinds of 
OO concepts that are way over their head.  No one should be discouraged 
from providing valuable info, but in every case the question-asker might

not be interested.  It's just a matter of trying to gauge that I
suppose.

I'm writing documentation for my development team on CFCs including a 
lot of the best practices I've pulled from various sources (including 
all the great responses to my question today).  I think a lot of those 
practices can be presented very concisely and answer a lot of questions 
that newbies have about using CFCs.  I think it would be a cool resource

to start up a Wiki on CFCzone.org and just direct users to that post. 
That would save a lot of us typing and also not open up these big 
debates about OO design :)


-Cliff



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