John, I completely understand where you are coming from and understand both aspects (biz side and IT side). I'm the CEO and Chief Developer (you know small biz's require the ability to wear many hats) so I keep spending $$ in perspective and know how important the software is.
Here's food for thought:
You charge your client $X,XXX for a site, assuming its in the 4 digit + range, and convince them, if needed, to spend $X,XXX for their site as a necessary investment. On the flip of that scenario, you are Macromedia's client. (can explain that if necessary)
On 11/7/05, Joe Rinehart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Ok, the topic has changed, I'll chip in :)
> There you go... you have validated my point. Not everyone has a credit card
> limit to throw at a business venture.
If someone can't raise a $5,000 credit line, it's probably not a good
idea that they start a business at all, and probably a worse idea that
anyone hire them.
> (By the way... credit is a path of
> raising investment capital also. Not everyone has a credit line. Would you
> believe there are people who don't do credit at all?)
I didn't do credit at all when I started my first business. I started
it at 19 with zero "investment capital" (kind of a mis-use of the
term), and sold it when I was 22. We used CF enterprise, and never
used credit to buy it; instead, a client actually bought it for us.
$5,000 is nothing in the terms of enterprise systems.
> You also have to be able to market yourself to recap your investment.
I think you mean others' investment in you - that includes creditors.
> And on the subject of a credit card... why don't we let people decide for
> themselves how much debt they want to assume.
We're already there. If they don't want to assume debt for purchasing
something, like software, they're welcome not to.
> Some creative business
> management my provide other avenues. Let's not condemn anyone because they
> don't raise 3K for enterprise just because that is something others may
> choose to do.
No, let's condem them. They *should* fail. If someone's willing to
do what it takes to use the best tool, and that provides them a
competitive advantage, then there's nothing wrong with that person
putting another shop out of business. In fact, it's a good thing.
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