On 11/7/05, John Farrar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sean... (I will do better this time.)
>
> You have what we call investment capital. If your capitalized you should
> certainly vest your assets. The point is that PHP is chosen over CF because
> many people are not financially enabled.

That's a strange statement. Is Bluedragon chosen over CF because
people are not "financially enabled"? Clients I talk to want problems
solved and rarely care about the details of the technology as long as
the price of the solution fits their budget. One the low end of the
project price curve, software (eg CF) can be a significant part of the
solution; on the high end, software can again become significant with
certain kinds of scaling -- but in the middle, where many projects
live, the cost of the platform is not a major factor -- the cost of
maintenance and hosting is far greater.

I've talked with a will-not-be-named CF luminary who has bid on *J2EE*
development projects, built in the cost of CF Enterprise, and
delivered the Java EAR file (all CF), the CF license, and collected
the early completion bonus on top of a generous contract.

<rant>.NET is NOT INHERENTLY FREE!!!! It costs a Windows license if
you use the Microsoft package-- at least $350 (Windows 2003 Web
edition), more typically $700+ for Std. [Mono, however, is free,
assuming it does what you want]</rant>

> Paying for things requires more
> than a decision... it requires resources! Do the demographics of resources
> available to web developers and companies. You will find that it's not just
> a matter of making a decision. That is a bit oversimplified. Again... just
> because it's ideal doesn't make it realistic.

Plenty of people manage to reach, or at least approach, the "ideal" of
having enough resources to complete their project. Those that don't,
fail.

ANY company has to have the resources to meet the needs of producing
whatever it is they produce -- would you want an accountant or lawyer
or doctor or dentist that can't buy what they need to do their job and
just says "let's be realistic -- anethesia is expensive and I don't
have resources, so since it's not an ideal world,  just be realistic
and sit there and scream while I do your root canal"?

>You also need to learn a bit
> more about cash flow. You need to earn above operating costs and living
> costs to raise the 3K... it isn't just take 3 weeks income. You're a funny
> guy aren't you!

Actually, you might want to try actually reading what was written
before you jump in with your "expertise". Sean very clearly stated:

"$3,000 per CPU (in 2 CPU increments). It's a one-off cost. Even if
you're only charging $50 / hour that's just three weeks of work and
it's paid for."

He's *charging* $50/hour in this example That's the cost a client pays
for an hour of development. If a $6000 purchase saves 120 hours of
development time, then the *total* cost to the *client* is unchanged.
And now this programmer has an additional 120 hours of time to put on
*another* billable project. The income to the *developer* is unchanged
(assuming they have the work) Quite possibly, the early completion of
the project (since we saved 3 weeks) generating an early completion
bonus, or at least a lot of client goodwill.

--
John Paul Ashenfelter
CTO/Transitionpoint
(blog) http://www.ashenfelter.com
(email) [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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