On 11/14/05, Sean Corfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 11/13/05, Mike Kear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Or they are quite likely to be using the industry-leader HELM control panel
 
 
The HELM, allows people at a variety of levels - site owners, resellers, major resellers, wholesalers, whatever to create sites, subdomains, email accounts, databases etc etc without the need for host sysadmin involvement.  Like everything else the world, there are wonderful control panels and there are less wonderful ones.   I've had my hosting business under a lot of them over the years, but the HELM is by far the best, and allows me to give the most independence to my clients, without losing control or bring too much risk to other users that things will get setup wrong. 
 
However nothing's perfect and one of the drawbacks of the HELM is that you can't see your site using IP address like you can with most other systems.   You have to have a domain name.  In practice, what we normally do is stage a site in a subdomain of another domain and when it's all tested and ok, we move the code to a domain on the same box and do it that way.
 
However when you're moving every site, that just gets too unweildy, unless you have lots of time to do the move.    And in our case, I move some of my own hobby sites first, to dip my toe in the water so to speak, and see what 'gotchas' there are (if any) on teh new box.  then the commercial ones.
 

Never heard of it. When I moved my site from one plan to another, the
hosting company gave me an IP address in lieu of a domain name so I
could test my site worked just fine before they switched DNS. The only
problems I had were web server config related, not CFMX related.

[snip]
 
 

.Not everyone needs a dedicated server. But please don't complain about
sharing server space with other users if you've made the choice to use
shared hosting. It *is* a trade-off (just like so many things in
life!).
--
 
 
[snip]
 
I didnt complain.   However if you raise your base cost by having your own dedicated server, you improve the service you can provide, but increase your cost base too.   Each business has to evaluate any change in the cost base in the light of the revenue change that might or might not result.    The question is .... if you add x% to the cost, and improve the service, will that increase your revenue by x% or not?
 
I'm not sure in my case the revenue would increase by more than the increase cost if i outlayed for a dedicated server.    Not just yet anyway.
 
I would love to have a dedicated server, then i could have far more control over what does or does not happen with it.   But the deal I have is pretty close to dedicated.  There are only a few of us on the boxes.   We have far less traffic on the boxes than conventional hosting wisdom would say we ought to.
 
Suits me and the clients who host on our boxes!
 
 
Cheers
Mike Kear
Windsor, NSW, Australia
Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer
AFP Webworks
http://afpwebworks.com
ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month
 
 
 

Sean A Corfield -- http://corfield.org/
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