@Mark, Jaimie
Auto-persistence seems interesting, but how often do people want to save on
every request? It seems like there are many situations when you don't
actually want to save even though you modified the data. Also what messiness
is being avoided, calling the save() method?

Baz


On Jan 31, 2008 12:27 PM, Michael Sharman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> @Peter
>
> > It isn't the DAO that'd be a transient - it'd be the User business
> object
> > that (if ColdSpring served it up) would be a transient
> (singleton=false).
> > You'd inject the singleton DAO into it.
>
> Just as I thought, thanks for clearing that up!
>
> On Jan 31, 11:54 pm, Peter Bell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > It isn't the DAO that'd be a transient - it'd be the User business
> object
> > that (if ColdSpring served it up) would be a transient
> (singleton=false).
> > You'd inject the singleton DAO into it.
> >
> > Proviso: Some people on the lists have recommended NOT using ColdSpring
> for
> > transients, but creating a custom factory instead (or I use LightWire).
> > Others have used ColdSpring for instantiating their transients without
> > problems.
> >
> > Best Wishes,
> > Peter
> >
> > On 1/31/08 5:30 AM, "Michael Sharman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > Hi Peter,
> >
> > >> - For user.save() you need to inject a DAO into your transients which
> > >> requires ColdSpring with singleton=false
> >
> > > Would the DAO composed into the User bean not be a singleton? Why
> > > would you need a 'per instance' DAO for each and every User bean?
> >
> > > On Jan 31, 4:16 am, Peter Bell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >> Hi Alan,
> >
> > >> Been pretty much beaten to death on cfcdev over the years. Short
> answer, it
> > >> isn't right or wrong - more a matter of preference.
> >
> > >> I prefer syntactically User.save() to UserService.save(User), but
> that's a
> > >> pure preference Others prefer it the other way round.
> >
> > >> Provisos:
> > >> - Don't put SQL in the bean - eithr way the saving should be
> delegated to a
> > >> DAO
> > >> - For user.save() you need to inject a DAO into your transients which
> > >> requires ColdSpring with singleton=false, a custom factory or
> lightwire.
> > >> - If you need to support remote method cals, you're going to need a
> > >> Userservice.save() method. I have one for remote calls ad it just
> delgates
> > >> to a new bean it creates. Some may prefer just to have the service do
> the
> > >> save all the time, but again it's down to preferences.
> >
> > >> Best Wishes,
> > >> Peter
> >
> > >> On 1/30/08 12:03 PM, "Alan Livie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> > >>> We currently use the service object to save a bean (which uses a
> > >>> gateway/DAO its composed with to do the work)
> >
> > >>> Another developer has suggested the bean should save really be
> > >>> responsible for saving itself (again using a DAO its composed with).
> >
> > >>> This looks like a good one for a discussion! :-)
> >
> > >>> Alan- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > >> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > - Show quoted text -
> >
>

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