In my opinion Fusebox is a good choice if you are a masochist. When I
inherited my first Fusebox app, I then also promised myself and all of my
future children that it would also be my last. (Oh, snap).


On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 8:53 PM, Mark Ireland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

>  There is a nice clue to be found in all this good advice.
>
> "Fusebox can be easily used to develop something as simple as a 2-page
> application or as complex as an entire corporate platform".
>
> Yes it can be used for something simple, but I say it definitely should not
> be. I have inherited dozens of old fusebox apps where fusebox was just the
> wrong choice because the apps are all simple.
>
> In my opinion Fusebox is a good choice if your app has complex navigation.
> Otherwise consider something else.
>
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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [CFCDEV] Re: Coldbox. What do people think?
> Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 16:36:48 -0500
> To: [email protected]
>
>
> Hmmmmm... I think I disagree with that statement.
>
> Honestly, I think that title is due to Fusebox... ColdBox is well-done
> without a doubt, but Fusebox has been around for 1000 years, is on it's 5th
> version, has a variant that follows ColdBox's lead in convention-based
> configuration, and the XML-using variant can be used in the classic model
> with modular cfm templates or in the OO/MVC model with CFCs and services,
> etc. So as far as the most robust, most widely used ColdFusion framework,
> Fusebox wins that contest hands-down. Considering that at least 5 books have
> been published about Fusebox, that it's been around since 1997 as a
> methodology and 2001 as a complete framework... let's just say it has an
> impressive resume.
> It's definitely the most-used and longest-lived of all the ColdFusion
> front-end frameworks, and it's undergone the most development since it's
> original release as a framework in 2001. As for robustness, it leaves almost
> the entire architecture up to the devleoper and, it can be MVC or not, etc.
> The net effect of this is that Fusebox can be easily used to develop
> something as simple as a 2-page application or as complex as an entire
> corporate platform. And, since it compiles it's pages down to inline CFML
> that are simply grabbed from cache after being run once, it's also arguably
> the most performant...
>
> As for the frameworks out there that mandate CFCs and an MVC architecture,
> ColdBox is an excellent choice... but there are things that are surprisingly
> incomplete, like the IoC plugin (which really only matters if you're using
> ColdSpring or Light Wire). Since ColdBox keeps your ColdSpring bean factory
> captive, using things like parent bean factories is challenging... and as
> for the concept of no XML, that only works if you want to build a simple
> site using componentName.methodName as your events. If you want to do
> anything much fancier than that (like implicit invocation) you have to get
> fancy, build your own interceptors, and configure them using XML. So while
> it definitely has *less* XML than ModelGlue or Mach-II, it's certaily not
> a ero-XML proposition for anything it's straight-up core functionality.
> Actually even for the core functionality it's not a zero-XML framework...
> you still have an XML config file that's very similar to fusebox.xml.
>
> Honestly, there's really nothing you can do in ColdBox that you can't do in
> any of the others, especially if you look at MG 3 (aka MG:Gesture). Mach-II
> may be there also, but my Mach-II is rusty and I haven't kept up that well.
>
> The only thing that ColdBox has going for it beyond the others is the
> documentation, and Fusebox gives it a run for its money at that. Although I
> have found the ColdBox doco hard to use and harder to find... that's got to
> be just me, because everyone else seems to think it's beyond cool.
>
> So yeah, I like ColdBox. It's a nice framework. They're all nice
> frameworks, and they all do pretty much the same thing in different ways.
> The most developed and most robust, however, is unquestionably Fusebox...
> it's got a 5-year headstart on ColdBox.
>
> Just my $2...
>
> Laterz,
> J
>
> On Oct 18, 2008, at 12:35 PM, David McGuigan wrote:
>
> In my CF frameworks research ColdBox stood out far and away as the
> most-developed, robust and advanced MVC choice on the market by far.
>
>
>
>
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