(d'oh, forgot to attach neednull-2)
On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 7:11 PM, Nico Weber <tha...@chromium.org> wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 5:45 PM, Nico Weber <tha...@chromium.org> wrote:
>> On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 5:39 PM, Richard Smith <rich...@metafoo.co.uk>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> As far as I can see, if one of the __need_FOO macros is defined, glibc
>>> expects <stddef.h> to provide *only* FOO, and not any of the other pieces of
>>> <stddef.h>, so I don't think this patch is entirely right. It's also not
>>> complete -- we should also handle FOO in the set {wchar_t, size_t,
>>> ptrdiff_t, wint_t}.
>>
>>
>> wint_t is already handled, right below the lines my patch touches (and in
>> the same way as in my patch). The others don't seem to be needed at the
>> moment, so I'd omit them from now.
>
> Sounds like I misunderstood Richard's reply to this on IRC and he
> thought this was less convincing than I did :-)
>
> For comparison, here are two other possible patches:
>
> * clang-neednull-2.patch changes things so that if __need_NULL is
> defined, stddef.h defines NULL and nothing else. It also changes
> stddef.h so that __need_win_t defines only wint_t and does nothing
> else – this latter part happens to break a test, so the patch also
> updates that test. As far as I can tell from inspection, the test
> wouldn't pass with gcc's stddef.h either, so this improves
> compatibility but it might break existing code.
>
> * clang-neednull-3.patch also adds support for the rest of FOO in the
> set {wchar_t, size_t, ptrdiff_t}.
>
> Let me know which one of the 3 patches (with 1 being the one I
> originally sent) you like best. If it's 3, I'll add a few more tests
> for that.
>
>>
>>>
>>> The intent appears to be to support libc headers such as <stdlib.h> (which
>>> provides NULL and size_t, but is *not* allowed to provide any of the other
>>> parts of <stddef.h>), and *not* to recover from the <linux/*>, <asm/*>, etc.
>>> headers breaking the definition of NULL. I can see no evidence of any header
>>> including the broken NULL definition and trying to fix it, only headers
>>> asking for subsets of <stddef.h>.
>>>
>>> So... I'm not opposed to this patch, if it does the right thing, but I
>>> don't think it's a (complete) solution to the problem of getting a bad
>>> definition of NULL from <linux/stddef.h>.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Chandler Carruth <chandl...@google.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Nico Weber <tha...@chromium.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 1:05 PM, Reid Kleckner <r...@google.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Even if we commit this workaround, can we report this as a bug to
>>>>>> upstream Linux?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> As mentioned above, I'm guessing Linux probably doesn't want to depend
>>>>> on C standard headers, so they wouldn't see this as a bug in Linux.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Just FYI, there is a more subtle distinction here.
>>>>
>>>> Linux probably wants to not depend on a C standard library. But stddef.h
>>>> and the definition of NULL is actually available even in a *freestanding*
>>>> implementation of C which has no standard library. It's required to be
>>>> provided by the compiler. As such, I actually think Linux would be OK with
>>>> including stddef.h from a technical perspective. Any barrier here would be
>>>> historical or political.
>>>>
>>>> That said, either historical or political barriers would be barriers all
>>>> the same, and more pressingly we can't retroactively change all of the
>>>> existing linux kernel headers and glibcs deployed around the world and
>>>> trying to use Clang. So suggesting *only* changing either Linux or glibc is
>>>> a non-starter. We need to both change Clang to work around this, and (where
>>>> we can) suggest to the upstream communities a more clean solution.
>>>>
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