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Comment at: docs/CodingStandards.rst:512
 
+Do not commit changes that include trailing whitespace. Some common editors 
will
+automatically remove trailing whitespace when saving a file which causes
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hfinkel wrote:
> This statement is confusing (mostly because it has two reasonable 
> interpretations and I think you actually mean both). We should say two 
> separate things:
> 
>  1. As a coding guideline, make sure that lines don't have trailing 
> whitespace.
>  2. If such whitespace exists, don't remove it unless you're otherwise 
> changing that line of code (and here we can caution people about their 
> editors).
> 
Good point; I've made those changes.


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Comment at: docs/DeveloperPolicy.rst:395-408
+Commits with No Functional Change
+---------------------------------
+
+It may be permissible to commit changes without prior review when the changes
+have no semantic impact on the code if the changes being made are obvious and
+not invasive. For instance, removing trailing whitespace from a line, fixing a
+line ending to be consistent with the rest of the file, fixing a typo, code
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chandlerc wrote:
> hubert.reinterpretcast wrote:
> > hfinkel wrote:
> > > aaron.ballman wrote:
> > > > chandlerc wrote:
> > > > > I think this is a much broader statement than is warranted to address 
> > > > > the specific problem. And I'm not completely comfortable with it.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I don't think guidance around "no functional change" is the right way 
> > > > > to give guidance about what is or isn't "obvious" and fine to commit 
> > > > > with post-commit review personally.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I'd really suggest just being direct about *formatting* and 
> > > > > whitespace changes, and specifically suggest that they not be made 
> > > > > unless the file or code region in question is an area that the author 
> > > > > is planning subsequent changes to.
> > > > We talk about formatting and whitespace in the CodingStandards 
> > > > document, but we talk about obviousness and post-commit review in 
> > > > DeveloperPolicy. Where would you like these new words to live? To me, 
> > > > they're more about the policy and less about the coding standard -- the 
> > > > coding standard says what the code should look like and the policy says 
> > > > what you should and should not do procedurally, but then I feel the 
> > > > need to tie it back to "obviousness". How about this in the developer 
> > > > policy:
> > > > ```
> > > > The Obviousness of Formatting Changes
> > > > -------------------------------------
> > > > 
> > > > While formatting and whitespace changes may be "obvious", they can also 
> > > > create
> > > > needless churn that causes difficulties for out-of-tree users carrying 
> > > > local
> > > > patches. Do not commit formatting or whitespace changes unless they are 
> > > > related
> > > > to a file or code region that you intend to make subsequent changes to. 
> > > > The
> > > > formatting and whitespace changes should be highly localized, committed 
> > > > before
> > > > you begin functionality-changing work on the code region, and the 
> > > > commit message
> > > > should clearly state that the commit is not intended to change 
> > > > functionality,
> > > > usually by stating it is :ref:`NFC <nfc>`.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > If you wish to make a change to formatting or whitespace that touches 
> > > > an entire
> > > > library or code base, please seek pre-commit approval first.
> > > > ```
> > > I agree with @chandlerc about the current proposed text, and I think that 
> > > this is better. I wonder if we want to insist on separating the commits, 
> > > of if, combined localized commits are okay?
> > > 
> > It depends on how much noise there is when combining the commits; and when 
> > evaluating for that, we have to remember that people use different diff 
> > tools.
> I like Hal's separation in the other comment.
> 
> Here, I tihnk we can address all of this by making this more of a (strong) 
> suggestion and not a hard rule.
> 
> "Avoid committing formatting or whitespace only changes outside of code you 
> plan to make subsequent changes to." or something similar.
> 
> Then it also becomes natural to suggest:
> 
> "Also, try to separate formatting or whitespace changes from functional 
> changes, either by correcting the format first (ideally) or afterward."
> 
> I think you can also shorten some of the discussion along these lines.
Good suggestions! This made the wording short enough that I rolled it in with 
the "obvious" wording above.


https://reviews.llvm.org/D50055



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