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Comment at: llvm/docs/DeveloperPolicy.rst:195
+* Adding, removing, or regrouping a diagnostic.
+* Fixing a bug (please link to the issue fixed in the bug database).
+* Adding or removing an optimization.
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aaron.ballman wrote:
> lattner wrote:
> > aaron.ballman wrote:
> > > nikic wrote:
> > > > I disagree with this point. Bug fixes should not make it into the 
> > > > release notes as a matter of course -- there may be specific 
> > > > high-impact bug fixes that may be worth mentioning, but bug fixes 
> > > > should not be included in the release notes as a matter of policy.
> > > > 
> > > > I agree that release notes for Clang/LLVM are currently insufficient, 
> > > > but we should also be careful not to over-compensate in the other 
> > > > direction, but including too much irrelevant noise.
> > > > I disagree with this point. Bug fixes should not make it into the 
> > > > release notes as a matter of course -- there may be specific 
> > > > high-impact bug fixes that may be worth mentioning, but bug fixes 
> > > > should not be included in the release notes as a matter of policy.
> > > 
> > > I disagree (quite strongly) with this and would point out that users have 
> > > explicitly requested this information be included: 
> > > https://discourse.llvm.org/t/rfc-update-developer-policy-on-release-notes/61856/3
> > > 
> > > > I agree that release notes for Clang/LLVM are currently insufficient, 
> > > > but we should also be careful not to over-compensate in the other 
> > > > direction, but including too much irrelevant noise.
> > > 
> > > Bug fixes are generally far from irrelevant, but I agree that reviewer 
> > > and author discretion is advised (as with any release note). For example, 
> > > if you introduce a bug in version N and fix the bug in version N, there's 
> > > no need for a release note in that situation because there's no 
> > > user-facing change as far as users care about. But I don't want to try to 
> > > spell that out in precise detail because there will always be edge cases.
> > I agree with both of you - listing every bug report would be too noisy and 
> > pretty irrelevant for most users, but there are high impact ones that are 
> > important and valuable to list.  How about wording this bullet something 
> > like:
> > 
> > * Fixing high impact bugs, e.g. ones that get discussed on hackernews or 
> > comparable forums (please link to the issue fixed in the bug database).
> Thanks for clarifying where I was misunderstanding before. I agree there 
> needs to be a change to my wording, but I'd prefer if we went with something 
> more like:
> 
> * Fixing a bug that potentially has significant user-facing impact (please 
> link to the issue fixed in the bug database).
> 
> (I mostly want to avoid making it sound like the bug has to be a 
> stop-the-world bug in order to warrant a release note. Functionally, I think 
> fixing a bug in Clang should almost always have a release note, but the same 
> may not be true for fixing a bug in LLVM where the difference in behavior may 
> not be particularly observable to users.)
> 
> Would this address your concerns @nikic?
The new wording looks good to me, thanks!


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