Telus isn't the only option out there.  AT&T will build servers for you and
configure hardware the way you want it.  There are even more options out
there such as Rackspace (which I understand is quite affordable) among
others.

Leisa Knapp
Senior Server Operations Analyst
AT&T Canada
905.896.6253
416.377.4010p
416.294.7245c
http://www.attcanada.ca




> -----Original Message-----
> From: Karl Zarudny [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, 05 April 2002 11:21
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [CFTALKTor] CFUGToronto Shared Hosting Coop... 
> 
> 
> I'd be interested and may know a few other who might also 
> take interest in
> something like this.
> 
> > From: "Kevin Towes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2002 09:47:18 -0500
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: [CFTALKTor] CFUGToronto Shared Hosting Coop...
> > 
> > 
> > Hmm... interesting idea, Byron...
> > 
> > Perhaps a CFUGToronto Shared Hosting COOP  might be 
> interesting to explore.
> > 
> > kev.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: April 4, 2002 9:33 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [CFTALKTor] Beware of Telus
> > 
> > 
> > Something that you might want to weigh out is that Telus 
> and WorldCom
> > aren't all that interested in co-hosting / hosting 
> situations.  They are
> > much, much happier when you're parking a rack of servers, 
> heck, even a
> > single machine; in their farm.
> > 
> > It has to do with support costs and licensing.  It's just 
> not to their
> > benefit to run a co-hosted environment simply from a cost 
> point of view.
> > 
> > I know that there are a lot of people out there who can't afford a
> > co-location on their own.  But, consider the power of 
> getting a few people
> > together to get a couple of rack mounting servers, a  switch and a
> > firewall 
> > and racking it up at a large scale farm like Telus.
> > 
> > As long as you administer the box, Telus doesn't give a 
> flying fish what
> > servers run on it.
> > 
> > So, in your search for a hosting solution you might want to 
> talk amongst
> > yourselves, organize and pool some case and get into the game.
> > 
> > There, I've said me two bits...
> > 
> > Byron
> > 
> > At 04:53 PM 4/4/2002 -0500, you wrote:
> > 
> >> Hi gang.. in a previous email I mentioned that Telus 
> supported SQLServer.
> > A
> >> couple of our clients were just sold services from Telus where they
> > promised
> >> Microsoft SQLServer support for Shared hosting.  When we 
> were ready to
> > go...
> >> it turns out they don't support SQLServer - their 
> marketing arm is not in
> >> communication with their technical arm.  Its sad, really.
> >> 
> >> I apologize for letting you know that they do support this 
> option.  I
> > wanted
> >> to give a heads up to the group to let you know so you 
> don't go the way of
> >> our client with Telus.
> >> 
> >> On another note.  WorldComm does support SQLServer and 
> ColdFusion 5.0 as
> > was
> >> posted earlier this week.  Not that I am endorsing one or another,
> > honestly
> >> I have never used Worldcomm, but at least they're honest 
> with what they
> >> provide..
> >> 
> >> Always remember, when you are choosing a hosting provider 
> to always have a
> >> meeting with their technical team to ensure your exact operating
> > environment
> >> is accomodated.  I have seen it many times where sales is 
> not in sync with
> >> what is actually available.
> >> 
> >> kev.
> >> 
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