Ben Hitz wrote:

Hi Ben

I am not a fan of inside-out objects in perl, because I have much old code which uses old-style hash objects.
It's confusing to have two types (although technically usable).

Your use of 'because' there is meaningless.

Before someone adopts inside-out objects, /all/ their code is 'old-style etc'. And almost every line of code in CPAN is 'old-style'. So what :-)?

This preponderance of old-style code, in itself, tells you nothing about whether or not inside-out objects are better, worse, or the same old same old. It simply means a vast amount of code was written before inside-out objects hit the big time.

In other words, we use what we have learned. For those of us who are just about to try inside-out objects, without necessarily adopting them, it's a choice between conservatively sticking with old-style code or expending the effort to investigate something (inside-out objects in this case) which, if adopted, will actually require retraining the old brain a bit.

This situation is similar to a job I've just applied for, where Perl Best Practices (PBP) is the mandatory way of writing code. I certainly won't have to make as many changes to adopt PDP as a lot of other programmers would (if I get the job), but I recognize there will be many little places where I'll have to stop and think about what I'm writing. And that's no bad thing, just an effort.

And there's no escape from the fact that Perl, and software technology in general, are not static entities. They evolve, become more complex (perhaps unfortunately), and we can really only claim to be professional programmers if we are prepared to make some sort of effort to keep up-to-date (as distinct from mindlessly adopting the latest offerings from the loudest fanatics).

We have been converting our hand-rolled Database API to DBIx::Class, which uses Class::Accessor (actually an extension written for DBIC) called Class:Accessor::Grouped and Class:C3 to dispatch.

The fact that I prefer Rose to DBIC doesn't mean you should switch to copy me. Just investigate, cogitate, and choose the one you most like the look of. Before switching from Class::DBI to Rose, I read hundreds of msgs on the DBIC mailing list, but couldn't bring myself to feel enthusiastic about it.

Adopting Rose required retraining myself, but after a very short while it just went Click! in a powerful way. So I asked myself - why is that? It's a feeling so it's difficult to articulate - but the word I now use is familiarity. Writing DBI code in Rose feels just like writing anything else in Perl. It (Rose) is a natural fit to Perl. But I'll say it again - just because it suits some of us doesn't mean it has to suit all of us.
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Ron Savage
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http://savage.net.au/index.html

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