fwiw, this is the bug Mimi is referring to (the one that caused us to move the view selector menus to tools):

Special-cased dashboard logic needs to handle view, not just filter state
https://bugzilla.osafoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8375

One of the problems when viewing the dashboard collection in the calendar view -- recurring events don't show up.

I believe Mimi is correct that a triage table view of a user collection filtered by calendar events doesn't have known bugs, but let us know Andre if that is incorrect and you see bugs (or know of the bug #s in bugzilla of bugs we've forgotten).

Seems like a reasonable solution Mimi.

Cheers,
Katie

Mimi Yin wrote:
Okay, I think I understand what you're getting at.

Really what we need to do is straighten out our View Selector versus Kind Filter story.

I believe the problem we're running into is that the Dashboard collection that can't be viewed as a Calendar. (User-defined collections can display in 'Triage List View" in the Calendar app just fine I think.)

For now however, I'm proposing we skirt the view-selector issue by organizing the View menu this way:

View>>
All
Starred
Calendar
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Clean up
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Month View
Week View
Day View
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Next Week
Previous Week
.
.
.

Month/Week/Day Views would be greyed out except when user is looking at a user-defined collection in the Calendar App Area.

Mimi

On Apr 30, 2008, at 6:28 PM, Andre Mueninghoff wrote:

Hi Mimi,

My apologies, too many words. Yes, in the direction of your clarification about the bug below, I was trying to suggest that when the Dashboard collection is selected, that the active (not greyed) menu choices should be:

View>>
- All
- Starred
- Calendar>>Triage Table

...that is, to parallel the toolbar...with the idea that selecting the path View>>Calendar>>Triage Table would have the same effect as pressing the Calendar toolbar button, as now implemented, and ideally also actually "pressing" the Calendar toolbar button for the user.

-Andre

Mimi Yin wrote:
Hi Andre,
I'm not sure I'm following your description.
I think there was a misunderstanding about that bug, which I've re-opened. The menu structure should be:
View>>
- All
- Starred
- Calendar>>Month / Week / Day
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Mimi
On Apr 30, 2008, at 12:30 PM, Andre Mueninghoff wrote:
Hi, I just tried this out, and was immediately surprised that from the Dashboard/All view the sub menu items for View > Calendar were greyed out. I was expecting to have ability to choose a sub menu item to change the view to Dashboard/Calendar. Many programs have both icon and menu paths to various views and functions. I believe the current implementation is confusing and will be a barrier to discovery.

I suggest adding and making active a Triage Table View menu choice to the sub menu under View > Calendar for use in the Dashboard collection. That is, the Triage Table View sub menu choice would be active only when pressing View > Calendar from the Dashboard/All view. I believe this would help to clarify for new users the behavior difference, when pressing the Calendar toolbar button, between being in the Dashboard collection and a user collection. Certainly, I'm influenced by having used to date the current Tools > Select View menu items, but I believe they clarify rather than obscure Chandler's features. I am not suggesting at this time that a Calendar/Triage Table View be made available for personal collections due to the open issue of master occurrences being displayed also and the confusion that can cause. (Even though I believe this should be a 1.x feature. I have a user story to support this.)

I didn't reopen this bug, but will do so if there is agreement.

-Andre
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