Agreed 0.15 should just go out the door asap.

I think it'd be good to count on 2 rounds of visual polish. A couple of days for each. You and Jeffrey should decide when you think it'd be most productive to do that.

Mimi

On May 6, 2008, at 4:02 PM, Travis Vachon wrote:

Hi Mimi

Yeah, definitely, depending on what you mean by next release cycle. If you mean 0.15, I don't think so, as I'd like to only push code and test fixes at this point. It most definitely makes sense to spend a day or two just reviewing and iterating on visual polish, probably over the phone with the help of a live testing server. Bug 11854 is probably a good place to coordinate all of that, and we may want to wait until the code deliverables for 1.0 are in before we start.

-Travis

On May 6, 2008, at 3:31 PM, Mimi Yin wrote:

Hi Travis,

Would it make sense to dedicate some part of this next release cycle to overall visual polish? I think it's more efficient if you, Jeffrey and I can iterate on polish rather than me trying to specify everything ahead of time. I'm also happy to tweak the css myself (assuming it's in a state where the likelihood of me messing up code is low ;)

I've updated the bug with a laundry list of visual polish issues to consider:
https://bugzilla.osafoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11854

Mimi

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Hi Mimi

These all sound doable and desirable for 1.0, but not vital enough to interrupt the test/release cycle for 0.15, so I'm going to add them to
bug 11854.

Thanks again for the feedback.

Travis

On May 6, 2008, at 11:51 AM, Mimi Yin wrote:

Hi Travis,

I think we're really close with the sidebars. The dialogs looks
great. Just a few final tweaks to the sidebar itself ;)

For Logged-in View
1. I didn't notice yesterday, but the Collection Name has a 1 pixel
border all around it which creates a weird optical illusion on the
left side. Can we get rid of the top and left borders and just keep
the 1 pixel bottom border?
2. The grey matte seems to be 1 pixel shy of filling out the sidebar
on the right side.
3. Subscribe with... has a big margin above it. It should be 15
pixels.


For Ticket View
1. The Collection Name and Add to my account... should be left-
aligned with the text/buttons below. It's a few pixels too far over
to the left right now.
2. Add to my account... feels anemic below the new bigger Collection
Name. Can we make it bold like the links in the upper right-hand?
3. Add to my account... floats a big between the Collection Name and
the divider. Can we bring it closer to the collection name so
they're more clearly grouped.

4. The divider is too close to Add to my account... There should be
5 pixel bottom margin?
5. The divider also feels anemic given the heft of the stuff on
either side of it. Can we fatten it up to 3 pixels tall and make the
same grey as the top border of the sidebar? #CCCCCC
6. Currently, the divider appears to be 1 pixel shy of the right
border. It should go all the way across.

7. I think Subscribe with... is too close to the divider in the
ticket view. It should be 15 pixels.


For both Logged-in and Ticket Views
1. Can we bring the [Chandler Desktop] button about 4 pixels closer
to the words Subscribe with...

Thanks!
Mimi

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