Hi Owen I had thoughts similar to yours on many occasions, but ultimately I think that Chandler is OK, possibly better (simpler), without an 'Unscheduled items' button/filter. Consider the points below and please, feed back.
As a starting point, I assume that we use the star as a sign of importance… Owen-2 wrote: > > At the moment, if I do not star a note when it is created then it is > difficult to find it later. > Is that the main problem — repeated difficulty when finding single unimportant items? (This question recurs below.) > … non-calendar notes that had NOT been starred (or, in the old jargon, had > not been turned into Tasks) … > AFAICT it's not different jargon. There are different *purposes*. With <http://blog.chandlerproject.org/category/productdesign/> as reference, we must make a clear distinction between: • the task stamp, which existed in the beta (not in Chandler Desktop 1.0) and • the star stamp, which serves a very different purpose. (Side note: presentation of the blog may be imperfect at the moment, there was an issue with WordPress plugins. Grant has done some work towards resolution.) > All, Starred … and Calendar. In my view that is one too few. > Personally, defocusing from the toolbar, I sometimes think that three is too many! Overall, I wish for *fewer* aspects to the UI. (I often wonder why I can't see what I want, then realise that I forgot to click All.) > … unstarred notes simply get lost, since the only way they can be seen is > by looking through the All listing, where they are successfully hidden. > The All button does not hide. In the summary table, at the head of the star column: • click the star. Unstarred items should be uppermost. If not, click once more to reverse the sort. If I do that in my largest collection, I find myself in an ocean of DONE (this collection has more than 1,000 done items, most of which were unimportant, not starred). This ocean could bother me, but it doesn't; I ask myself, am I: a) looking for a particular unimportant item? or b) preparing to act upon a mass of unimportant items? For me, it's nearly always (a), and I tend to use /find in the quick entry field. The accelerator key makes this very usable. In practice, I rarely sort by anything other than the triage column. (It's neat that other columns can be sorted, but my need is not great.) > … storing unscheduled notes. > That's a key point, a wish that will surely be repeated. Let's step away from software for a while, and think about things. Think about items. An unscheduled item either: i) will never be added to the calendar or ii) probably will end up in the calendar. If items were on scraps of paper, I might separate the scraps into two piles (i) and (ii). In Chandler, I might create a collection for the second pile. --- It's true that other applications (e.g. Apple iCal and Mozilla Lightning/Sunbird) force an absolute separation between scheduled items and unscheduled items, but I'm not convinced that Chandler should follow the lead of such applications. --- Re <http://blog.chandlerproject.org/2008/06/05/next-steps-for-the-task-stamp/> if Chandler does gain an additional button/filter for Unscheduled items, then the radio button approach should be dropped; people will wish to click both Starred *and* Unscheduled, and so on. IMHO, this way lies danger; as the click matrix (toolbar buttons, overlaid collections, non-overlaid collections, Dashboard, In, Out, spheres, /find etc.) becomes more complicated, so the risk grows of items being unintentionally hidden. --- Owen and all, what do you think? When you seek a store/collection of unscheduled unimportant items, what's the purpose? If the items were on scraps of paper, how would you organise yourself? -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Unscheduled-Tasks%2C-Views%2C-Calendar-Events---the-Triage-tp2931519p2935416.html Sent from the Chandler users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. _______________________________________________ chandler-users@osafoundation.org mailing list unsubscribe here: http://lists.osafoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/chandler-users Chandler wiki: http://chandlerproject.org/wikihome
