On Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 2:38 PM, Björn Helgason <[email protected]> wrote: > From the pages about eli " (J is both free and uses ASCII characters but it > is more terse and difficult to learn than APL)." > > I do not share this view but many people do. > > I think it important to get rid of this notion.
Maybe? But I think it's a valid notion, for some people (not me!). Personally, I find python and numpy to be much harder to understand and work with than J. Stuff like 1 + 2 3 4 giving the result 3 4 5 is much easier to work with than python's list compehensions and tuples and other such complexities. But my finding J easier to work with does not really matter - in part because python is being used at the freshman level in a lot of colleges. And I think that that came about because the python community has a good sense of humor (the language, after all, was named after a british comedy show). And also, to become proficient with J you have to be comfortable with being ignorant about things you have learned about. (Ignorance being the state of existence where you can learn something as opposed to the more combative form where you know stuff and are thus immune to further education - though that can also be temporarily useful.) That said, we could do with a lot more "fun" J examples. And/or J+Javascript (jhs) examples. Or J+C examples. Etc. Maybe we should have a wiki page describing how to make J save menu options also save to github, or maybe dropbox? Etc... Perhaps we should also create an "art" forum? But perhaps first we should start publishing hobby/art/attractive code related to fun things we can be doing? Thanks, -- Raul ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
