I'm on tap to give a J talk to a Meetup on 1/21/2014 and second the idea for more "fun" J examples. I'm thinking of re-using the "Newton solver" example I've used before, but it would be nice to have less mathematical examples as well.
On Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 3:57 PM, Raul Miller <[email protected]> wrote: > On Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 2:38 PM, Björn Helgason <[email protected]> wrote: > > From the pages about eli " (J is both free and uses ASCII characters but > it > > is more terse and difficult to learn than APL)." > > > > I do not share this view but many people do. > > > > I think it important to get rid of this notion. > > Maybe? But I think it's a valid notion, for some people (not me!). > > Personally, I find python and numpy to be much harder to understand > and work with than J. Stuff like 1 + 2 3 4 giving the result 3 4 5 is > much easier to work with than python's list compehensions and tuples > and other such complexities. > > But my finding J easier to work with does not really matter - in part > because python is being used at the freshman level in a lot of > colleges. And I think that that came about because the python > community has a good sense of humor (the language, after all, was > named after a british comedy show). And also, to become proficient > with J you have to be comfortable with being ignorant about things you > have learned about. (Ignorance being the state of existence where you > can learn something as opposed to the more combative form where you > know stuff and are thus immune to further education - though that can > also be temporarily useful.) > > That said, we could do with a lot more "fun" J examples. And/or > J+Javascript (jhs) examples. Or J+C examples. Etc. Maybe we should > have a wiki page describing how to make J save menu options also save > to github, or maybe dropbox? Etc... > > Perhaps we should also create an "art" forum? But perhaps first we > should start publishing hobby/art/attractive code related to fun > things we can be doing? > > Thanks, > > -- > Raul > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > -- Devon McCormick, CFA ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
