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> From: [email protected] [mailto:chat-
> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Raul Miller
> Sent: zondag 23 februari 2014 16:59
> To: Chat forum
> Subject: Re: [Jchat] games
> 
> On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 9:46 AM, Björn Helgason <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > Companies are shifting to all kinds of low costs.
> >
> > The companies selling services and/or hardware are hard hit.
> 
> Yes, I think this is a direct consequence of child labor laws, and the
> shift away from both farming and industrial economies.
> 
> People have tried to solve these issues by enforced destruction of
> things of value (to drive up demand), but I think that that's the
> wrong approach.
> 
> > It is very difficult managing a company with a shrinking market.
> 
> Absolutely. That's the downside of sharing economies, for companies
> that do not get it.
> 
> > When people are let go the most productive go first.
> 
> Not always, some will stay out of a sense of dedication. But yes, and
> this has always been an issue. It's just becoming more obvious.
> 
> > The company keeps on going with ever higher percentage of fat.
> 
> Thus the phrase "corporate welfare". But it's not actually as bad as
> it might first seem.
> 
> > We are seeing a major change and many giants are suffering.
> 
> Of course.
> 
> ... (some quoted text deleted here) ...
> 
> > In music etc the middlemen are feeling the heat but the musicians are
> > better off and in more and better contact with their audience.
> >
> > Adverticing seems to be giving money in various ways but it is an difficult
> > market.
> >
> > You do not want spam.
> 
> I do not want too much, but we've developed pretty good immunities to
> it. I expect this process to continue.
> 
> > The social medias are in a strange situation.
> >
> > I am personally in favor of communication but hate spam and intrusive
> > manners as many of them present.
> 
> Most of it is very low quality, yes. But imagine if spam actually
> contained useful information. It would still be annoying but ... not
> all that different from past government efforts, at least in general
> terms.
> 
> > Games seem to be growing but it is ever harder to make money out of it.
> 
> This has always been the way with entertainment industries. Anything
> that focuses exclusively on popularity is going to have a lot of
> people wanting to "make it big", trying and failing.
> 
> Popularity can be important, and you need people who are interested in
> being popular, but they need people to back them up.
> 
> Meanwhile, if you want money you have to be willing to provide the
> things that the people with money want. Similarly, if you want food
> you have to be willing to provide the things that the people with food
> want. Similarly for construction and plumbing and so on.
> 
> Meanwhile... there's huge untapped productivity in the
> poverty-stricken regions of the world. Many of those people are
> smarter and more capable than many of those in the rich parts of the
> world. So self-interested companies find themselves forced to tap into
> that potential and at the same time struggle to maintain a
> "competitive advantage", basically riding on the intersection of a
> wide variety of problems.
> 
> But what is wealth? You can sometimes approximate wealth by looking at
> currency (or maybe cash flow) but it's actually quite a bit more
> complicated than that.
> 
> My favorite illustration of this issue is
> http://arxiv.org/pdf/1002.2284.pdf - the presentation there is fairly
> straightforward. But, restated: from a mathematical point of view,
> high velocity markets are tremendously inefficient. I expect that this
> means they tend to decouple value from currency. The result being that
> successful companies need to provide value in other ways. You still
> need currency - you can't avoid that - but it's by no means the only
> way of judging wealth.
> 
> (And it never has been.)
> 
> What it is, though, is incredibly convenient.
> 
> > I have been making money out of working with tourism and it seems to be
> > growing like many entertainment industries.
> >
> > Fluctuates quite a bit.
> 
> The best answer to fluctuations is probably diversification. Savings
> helps also, of course.
> 
> Here in the States, housing developments which offer sustainable
> gardening are becoming more and more popular, especially with the
> rich. There are a variety of reasons behind this. One of them is that
> fresh food tastes good. But there's a lot of other reasons also.
> Still, having backup systems is important, and even our economies and
> our politics need backup systems. But you need a certain level of
> failures before most people appreciate those systems.
> 
> "Fortunately", there's never a shortage of people willing to break
> things and to fail. That's something we have always had a huge surplus
> of. The trick is learning from your mistakes and turning them into
> something better. (Other tricks include making sure you are attempting
> things you want to accomplish, and that you are willing to live with
> the results of your attempts.)
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> --
> Raul
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