Raul said: > This reminds me that 90, in French, is quatre-vingt-dix which > translates into J as (4*20)+10
Swiss French is unorthodox in the Francophone world because it has decimalish words for 70, 80, and 90: septant, octante, nonante. http://www.languagesandnumbers.com/how-to-count-in-french-switzerland/en/fra-che/ On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 9:38 PM, 'Bo Jacoby' via Chat <[email protected]> wrote: > I do not "bother other people with peculiarities which hinders them to > start at 0", but (as everybody else) I do distinguish between cardinal > numbers (including 0) and ordinal numbers (starting at "first"). An age is > a cardinal number, and a year number is an ordinal number. You are > perfectly free to disbelieve me when I tell you that learning ordinal > fractions is worth your while. I am no missionary. That ordinal fraction > theory "is grossly neglected since 1986" is no admission nor apology, but > merely information. > > Den 16:44 fredag den 1. juni 2018 skrev R.E. Boss < > [email protected]>: > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Chat <[email protected]> On Behalf Of PR PackRat > > Sent: vrijdag 1 juni 2018 02:00 > (...) > > If it's really true that the current decade starts at the beginning of > 2010, then > > the first decade of the modern era (A.D., C.E.) has only 9 years in its > > "decade"--1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9 (because there's no year 0). > > Using your logic, the second decade, of course, would then have 10 > years-- > > 10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19. And so on. This was the same logic > used by > > those who celebrated the new millenium on 1/1/2000 rather than on > > 1/1/2001. > > > > If all decades actually have 10 years (rather than 9 years for the first > one), > > then the end of that first decade (which starts with year 1, not a > nonexistent > > year 0) is the end of the 10th year. (Obviously, all 10th years > terminate with a > > zero because all multiples of 10 terminate with a zero.) Hence, the > decade > > previous to the current one ended at the conclusion of the year 2010. > The > > current decade (based from the beginning of the modern era) is 2011 to > > 2020. > > We use the decimal natural/real number system to indicate years, weeks, > daynumbers (in a month), hours, minutes and seconds. > We use dedicated names for months and weekdays, and we start weeks and > daynumbers with 1, and hours, minutes and seconds with 0 (although midnight > is also denoted by 24 0 0.000). > The dedicated names for months and days and the numbering of months, weeks > and days starting at 1, we thank the Romans, who were unaware of the 0. > (As I am told in Japan the use different dedicated names for any object > which occur in different numbers.) > > Only for the numbering of the years we have some disagreement since people > were fiddling around with that number a few(?) times, and under Christian > influence we adopted long ago the AC/BC adjustment (actually, for that you > should have the birthday of Christ to be the first day of the first year). > But since long this is only important for historians or other people who > want to express ancients dates. > So don't tell me that "Christ was 2017 years old in 2018" - probably not, > after all adjustments made - or that "the first decade has only 9 years, > since there is no year 0". > IMO there is definitely a year 0, and whether Christ was born in that > year, or not, I don't care? > > Don't bother other people with peculiarities which hinders them to start > at 0, what everyone does in handling other scales: weight, time(<1 day), > distance, frequency, etc. > And if Jacoby has developed a system with an unfamiliar role for the 0 and > which is grossly neglected since 1986, as he admits, he should try to find > better arguments to make his system accepted, than the age of Christ. > > > R.E. Boss > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > -- Devon McCormick, CFA Quantitative Consultant ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
