some people say half seven meaning 18:30 while others mean 19:30. lot of different meanings and sign language is also very different in different parts of the world. On 5 Jun 2018 12:46, "'Bo Jacoby' via Chat" <[email protected]> wrote:
> The proposed calender addresses points in time rather than intervals of > time. It does'n address "the twentyfirst century". Before the advent of > clocks the hours were addressed by ordinal numbers, like "the eleventh > hour", but a clock shows the cardinal number of hours and minutes elapsed > since midnight or midday. Thus the second hour starts just after one > o'clock and ends at two o'clock. > > Den 8:23 tirsdag den 5. juni 2018 skrev Björn Helgason < > [email protected]>: > > > https://marymagdalenefrancetours.com/did-jesus-live-in-france/ > > On Tue, 5 Jun 2018 04:00 PR PackRat, <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On 6/4/18, Jose Mario Quintana <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Harvey wrote: > > >> It's just the way it is. > > > > I merely intended to inject some reality. Despite all of the > > discussions and arguments pro and con for various perspectives, > > nothing is going to change current civilization regarding dates and > > times. Everybody in these discussions can view it the way they want, > > accommodate their programming to the realities of the world, and life > > will go on. > > > > > ... Then, it gets even worse due to Greek and > > > Roman influence: one year of 12 months, numbered from 1 to 12 (when > > > the months are not explicitly named), and months of different numbers > of > > > days, numbered from 1 to the last day, > > > > If you want all the gory details, go to pages 987-1003 of volume 4 of > > the 11th edition of the Encyclopaedia Britannica > > < > > https://books.google.com/books?id=mP4tAAAAIAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq= > editions:XzxQJyk6QDAC&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwil- > YTBqLvbAhUrzoMKHRxCDaAQuwUIRDAF#v=onepage&q&f=false > > >. > > > > In brief, the old Roman calendar (as revised by Julius Caesar) started > > in what is now March. It had months with the number of days > > alternating between 31 and 30 (except the last month, February, had > > 29). (Another way of looking at it is that the odd-numbered months > > had the odd number of days, 31, and the even-numbered months had the > > even number of days, 30, except for the last month, February.) The > > months had numbers as their names. (We still have the names September > > through December from the original 7th through 10th months. Using our > > way of naming them, the 5th and 6th months would have been Quintember > > and Sextember.) After Julius Caesar's death, Quintember's name was > > changed to July to honor him. Later, Augustus Caesar had such a high > > estimation of himself that he renamed Sextember to August and, in > > order to also have 31 days in that month like Julius Caesar, he > > "stole" a day from the last month, February, leaving it with only 28 > > days. However, this created three 31-day months in a row, and so the > > next several months were adjusted in terms of 31 and 30 days, so that > > there would be no more than 2 months back-to-back with 31 days. At > > this time the equinox occurred on March 25, but, because there was no > > adjustment for the slight difference between the calendar year (even > > with leap years) and the true solar year, the equinox had precessed to > > March 21 by the time of the Council of Nicaea in 325 AD (when the date > > of Easter was determined). At some point in history, the year > > switched to start on January 1 rather than March 25 (which was the > > original equinox date and the date of the Annunciation, 9 months > > before Christmas). However, that was not the case in England, which > > retained New Year's Day on March 25 and did not drop days at the time > > of the Gregorian calendar reform. (One of the purposes of the 10-day > > reform was to get the equinox back on the date it was at the Council > > of Nicaea, March 21--by 1582 it was on March 11.) Finally, in 1750 > > England passed a law that, beginning in 1752, 11 days (an extra day > > had accumulated by that time) would be dropped from the calendar to > > synchronize with the rest of Europe and that the civil year would > > begin on January 1 rather than March 25. This created an interesting > > situation because anyone who had been born between January 1 and March > > 24 had not only a change in date but also a change in their birth > > year. For example, George Washington was originally born February 11, > > 1731 (O.S. = Old Style), but, with the calendar reform, that changed > > to February 22, 1732 (N.S. = New Style)--the date we know nowadays. > > It took a long period of time for people in both England and the > > American colonies to become accustomed to this change and to change > > all the various records and references to dates. > > > > > and the number of days of one > > > particular month depends on awfully complicated rules! > > > > Actually, it's rather easy--it all depends on the number 4. If you're > > dealing with century years (100 years, ending with 00), then it's a > > leap year if the century year is divisible by 400 (100x4); otherwise > > it's not a leap year. If you're dealing with a non-century year, then > > it's a leap year if it's divisible by 4; otherwise it's not a leap > > year. (Always do the century test first--then the rule is simple.) > > > > Technically, the Gregorian "fix" very slightly over-corrects the > > calculation, and so some have suggested the following preliminary step > > (neither you nor I will be around when this might become necessary): > > if you're dealing with millenial years (1000 years, ending with 000), > > then if the millennial year is divisible by 4000 (1000x4), it is NOT a > > leap year. But even that needs correction about every 20,000 years! > > > > I won't be here, but with all this talk about time, I think it will be > > very interesting to see what happens (or what workarounds will be > > developed) when the Unix time counter (2^31) turns over to zero in > > 2038--it's Y2K all over again! But that's also right around the same > > time that Social Security is forecast to run out of money. Hmmm..... > > > > Harvey > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
