Black Monday October 1987 

> the DJIA fell 508 points and roughly 600 million shares were traded, both 
> records.

> markets, left to their own devices, can and will break down into panic and 
> chaos.



Donna Y
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> On Aug 6, 2019, at 6:11 PM, Jose Mario Quintana 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
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> "That's not what it says."
> 
> Really?  Be that as it may, meanwhile you have not shown a single instance
> of a technical strategy, of the kind entertained in that paper, able to
> beat the market with a statistically significant level according to a
> backtest, let alone one which can do so in real-time betting real money.
> Have you?
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> "It does suggest that EMH would have implications about the nature of
> trading. But its central argument is that is the market were efficient that
> we could expect the market to have problem solving properties which it
> doesn't have."
> 
> You are not trying to imply, based on the claims of that paper, that the
> market is inefficient.  Are you?  What the paper says is,
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> "To be clear, we are also not trying to determine if P = NP or, for that
> matter, whether markets are efficient."
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> On Mon, Aug 5, 2019 at 9:23 AM Raul Miller <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> On Sun, Aug 4, 2019 at 7:03 PM Jose Mario Quintana <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> "So I'm not seeing the problem."
>>> 
>>> The paper, of which you are fond, implies that there might (or there
>> might
>>> not) be at least one mighty ghost technical trading strategy which, in a
>>> simulation, would have convincingly beaten a given market for a period of
>>> time in the past, and one would probably never know depending on whether
>>> P≠NP or not.
>> 
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>>> However, even if a mighty ghost makes a sudden apparition, there is no
>>> assurance it would be able to beat the particular market (in which it was
>>> backtested) in real-time betting real money because, for example, a
>> phantom
>>> concealed unregulated trading strategy might (or might not) start
>> operating
>>> ruining the actual mighty ghost trades.  (Once again, "Past performance
>> is
>>> not [necessarily] indicative of future results.")  Instead of invoking
>>> ghosts and phantoms I prefer to cite an actual trading record, such as
>> the
>>> one from the very smart lady I mentioned, as likely concrete evidence
>>> against the EMH (in a specific context).
>> 
>> 
>> That's not what it says.
>> 
>> It does suggest that EMH would have implications about the nature of
>> trading. But its central argument is that is the market were efficient that
>> we could expect the market to have problem solving properties which it
>> doesn't have.
>> 
>> --
>> Raul
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