MS wants to be independent of Sun - in the long run, they wouldn't be happy
with Java anyway. They tried embrace-and-extend, but this time, it didn't
really work. So now they try to replace Java. It's a question of power.

-Stefan

----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Forno" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Robert Hajime Lanning" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Chuck Peters"
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Cc: "Seth Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
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Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 8:00 PM
Subject: [freenet-chat] Re: [svlug] The End Game From Microsoft. Really.


> I've heard that as a result of their settlement with Sun MS is limited to
> Java 1.something in its license - not the latest and greatest
> Java......which is why they're pushing C-Flat as their Java equivalent.
>
> Can anyone confirm/deny this?
>
> rf
>
>
> > From: Robert Hajime Lanning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 10:57:35 -0700 (PDT)
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chuck Peters)
> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Seth Johnson),
[EMAIL PROTECTED],
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [svlug] The End Game From Microsoft.  Really.
> >
> > This is realy a battle between MS and Sun.  MS is trying to displace
Java
> > with C# since they lost the court battle.
> >
> > ---- As written by Chuck Peters:
> >>
> >> On Wed, 27 Jun 2001, Seth Johnson wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Folks, read this.  I speak in grave tones a lot of times, but let's be
> >>> very clear, now:
> >>>
> >>> The end game is upon us.  The apolitical BSD license is now being
pitted
> >>> directly against the GPL license, by M$ itself.
> >>>
> >>> It's so very sly.  Just think about it.  But if we see it right up, we
> >>> *might* be able to counter it.  I don't know:
> >>>
> >>> http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/dotnet/2001/06/27/dotnet.html
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Ask me what I mean, if you don't see what I'm saying.  I'm pissed and
> >>> anxious as heck about this.
> >>
> >> I'm not clear on what you mean about it being the end game.  As I see
it
> >> the battle is just starting to heat up, I don't think were even close
to
> >> the end game yet.  It's more of the MS embrace and extend strategy.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Chuck
> >>
> >>
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