As I see it, one very real threat with M$ comes from its financial wealth,
which can be used to put heavy pressure on cash-strapped university CS
departments.
In New Zealand, despite the massive economic boom happening here,
universities are on the brink of closure.
For any CS professor faced with old inadqeuate equipment, angry underpaid
staff, dwindling student enrolments and loss of credibility (and possible
loss of tenure), it could prove very tempting to accept large cash
injections from M$, in return for teaching courses on .net, C#, and
subliminating academic freedom in favour of M$'s 'business models'.
We could see whole new generations of programmers who are completely
anti-Linux, anti-GPL, even anti-BSD.
David
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stefan Reich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 06:12
Subject: Re: [freenet-chat] Re: [svlug] The End Game From Microsoft. Really.
> MS wants to be independent of Sun - in the long run, they wouldn't be
happy
> with Java anyway. They tried embrace-and-extend, but this time, it didn't
> really work. So now they try to replace Java. It's a question of power.
>
> -Stefan
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Richard Forno" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Robert Hajime Lanning" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Chuck Peters"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: "Seth Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 8:00 PM
> Subject: [freenet-chat] Re: [svlug] The End Game From Microsoft. Really.
>
>
> > I've heard that as a result of their settlement with Sun MS is limited
to
> > Java 1.something in its license - not the latest and greatest
> > Java......which is why they're pushing C-Flat as their Java equivalent.
> >
> > Can anyone confirm/deny this?
> >
> > rf
> >
> >
> > > From: Robert Hajime Lanning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 10:57:35 -0700 (PDT)
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chuck Peters)
> > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Seth Johnson),
> [EMAIL PROTECTED],
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: [svlug] The End Game From Microsoft. Really.
> > >
> > > This is realy a battle between MS and Sun. MS is trying to displace
> Java
> > > with C# since they lost the court battle.
> > >
> > > ---- As written by Chuck Peters:
> > >>
> > >> On Wed, 27 Jun 2001, Seth Johnson wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>
> > >>> Folks, read this. I speak in grave tones a lot of times, but let's
be
> > >>> very clear, now:
> > >>>
> > >>> The end game is upon us. The apolitical BSD license is now being
> pitted
> > >>> directly against the GPL license, by M$ itself.
> > >>>
> > >>> It's so very sly. Just think about it. But if we see it right up,
we
> > >>> *might* be able to counter it. I don't know:
> > >>>
> > >>> http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/dotnet/2001/06/27/dotnet.html
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Ask me what I mean, if you don't see what I'm saying. I'm pissed
and
> > >>> anxious as heck about this.
> > >>
> > >> I'm not clear on what you mean about it being the end game. As I see
> it
> > >> the battle is just starting to heat up, I don't think were even close
> to
> > >> the end game yet. It's more of the MS embrace and extend strategy.
> > >>
> > >> Thanks,
> > >> Chuck
> > >>
> > >>
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> > >
> > > --
> > > /* Robert Hajime Lanning
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