On Sat, Sep 15, 2001 at 04:09:29PM -0700, Jim Carrico wrote:
> >
> >  > there's no mention of this in any mainstream media - I guess it must
> >>  be 'unpatriotic' to criticize anything that the US gov. does, has
> >>  done, or will do. 
> >
> >I dont think thats true.  A good many people already knew about CIA training
> >islamic militants to fight communist powers in Afgh.  Its simply old news.
> >Even the movie 'The Seige' or something like that covered the topic in detail.
> >
> >But for most americans, they probably dont care.
> >
> 
> sadly, you're probably right about that. but if we're trying to 'dig 
> out the roots of terrorism' it behooves us to look very closely at 
> those who have architected the present situation, rather than giving 
> them a blank check.

The thing is that something MUST be done now, because the US of A is
rapidly spiraling towards fascism, with military adventures abroad and
severe repression and authoritarian control at home.

> >
> >
> >>  already people are shutting down remailers, ISPs are installing
> >>  carnivore - and I have a hunch that the SSSCA will sail through
> >>  congress without debate...
> >>
> >
> >The SSSCA is something entirely different, and I doubt it will sail through.
> >It has far to wide reaching impact, such as making it illegal to attach a
> >computer without DRM controls to the internat, or internal school 
> >networks, etc.
> 
> 
> i hope you're right about that, too. but the far-reaching impact is 
> precisely the point, and if the fanatics on both sides succeed in 
> creating the WWIII scenario they appear to crave, I'm afraid that a 
> pliant and 'bi-partisan' congress will go along with anything.  The 
> SSSCA may be the least of our worries. Historically, once governments 
> gain new powers they tend to never relinquish them.

Righto.  The fascist jackbooted state spreads its wings.

-- 
Yes, I know my enemies.
They're the teachers who tell me to fight me.
Compromise, conformity, assimilation, submission, ignorance,
hypocrisy, brutality, the elite.
All of which are American dreams.

              - Rage Against The Machine

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