Twice in the past a Freenet mailing list has been rendered useless through off-topic posts. The first time was the Chat mailing list several years ago which succumbed to flamewars over silly issues I don't even remember any more. This was an annoyance but not really a serious problem for the project. The second was the devl mailing list where serious discussion of immediate issues was drowned out by off-topic posts forcing the core Freenet developers to conduct most discussion on IRC. Since IRC is much more difficult for people to track, this resulted in significant and unnecessary opacity in the development process of Freenet which hurt everyone. It took years for these important discussions to return to devl.
I admit that I might sometimes overreact to offtopic posts, but it is in an effort to avoid a repetition of this unfortunate situation. If, by making an example of one or two people, I can force people to think twice as to whether those subscribed to devl want to read their posts, then it will be more than worth-while. Its a dirty job, but someone has to do it.
Ian.
Sonax wrote:
Now this is getting silly (or maby it already was), but my weekend has started and i have a few hours before i'm going to start drinking, so...
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.devel/14157
"implement a useful new feature or fix a significant bug". Hits the
nail on the head if you ask me.
Oh, com on. It is clearly implied that the "bugs" and "near-term new
features" from:
"This list is for active developers to discuss bugs, and the implementation of near-term new features. Please only post to this list if you know what you are talking about, otherwise use the tech mailing list"
are to be understood as specific bugs and features. Just writing the word bug dosn't make you on topic.
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.devel/14125
A map of the global Freenet network may not be specifically related
to
things we are immediately about to implement, but it remains far more
relevant than an announcement for a non-Freenet related project.
You can't get away from this one. It was off topic! If my post was more or less off topic won't change that.
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.devel/13879
Whether we can pay Matthew is very related to bugs and near-term features since without funds to pay him, our ability to do either is
severely impacted.
And if you have no communication with the comunity you can't get feedback about new bugs and then Toad cant fix them. See, now my post is on topic... You can make everything sound on topic if you argument like this. (And you even admit to the post being off topic at the bottom...)
You can't get away from the fact that you have posted off topic posts to the list in the past.
Have fun!
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