thank you for the detailed explanations, Alex
However the current 0.5 works pretty well IME.
that's great news. how is performance compared to for example aMule or eMule ?
Freenet is slow (my experience), is nice for text-based stuff (Freesites) and a few images. I have no experience retriving files with more than 5MB of size.
My experience has been fairly good. Using Frost, I'd say I've retrieved > 90% of the large files I've tried. And the speed is usually quite good, again IME. Specially, for people used to wait in
on an average DSL, you get 1-2 CDs per day on ed2k. how fast do you get a CD worth of data, on average, using freenet ? (my main focus currently are educational videos.)
I don't have that information. One reason is that I don't engage in large downloads from freenet that much. I'm commenting my few experiences so far. About the speed, I don't notice much difference with emule: sometimes you cap it, sometimes not. That said, our "average DSL" were I live is not that fast: 300, 600 kbps are the most common ones.
It also depend on how popular are your educational videos, of course.
queues in eMule it shouldn't be a new pain. The Frost progress bar is mesmerizing to me...
Sorry, where it says Frost it should say Fuqid.
using aMule you have to follow certain rules to get good performance. like not too many requests, good servers, etc. is this similar with freenet, a constant fiddling with options :-) ?
It can be, if you're paranoid about performance. Freenet has its own set of settings to fiddle with. Thread, connections, a lot of things in the freenet.ini to look at. That said, from reading this list I'd say that tweaking your settings you have a small probability of getting a marginal improvement, and a large probability of getting worst behavior, and sometimes breaking it completely.
I, for example, set the outbound bandwidth cap to something reasonable and that's all.
so what would be your recipe for installing such a freenet ? i am planning to repost a step by step instruction if you don't mind.
I don't think I'm an authoritative source of information about this. All I did is:
1. Install latest stable freenet.
http://freenet.sourceforge.net/index.php?page=download
2. Have it running all day if possible.
after how many days did you start to have good traffic ?
I suppose two to three days ought to be more than sufficient. I'm a casual user of freenet, so when I need to use it it has usually been run for weeks. Others can answer this better than I. No doubt you'll get too responses as "no amount of time will make work freenet well".
It depends on what you consider good enough.
3. Install fuqid for convenience (i.e you can download without it anyways, it just simplifies retries and such). I think it also allow insertions, but I have never used it for that.
http://freenethelp.org/html/Fuqid.html looks nice :-)
4. You may want to use FIW for your site insertions.
http://www.google.ch/search?q=freenet+FIW
I guess the real pain is in inserting large files. I used to insert some text-only small sites and the time required wasn't negligible.
In truth and IMO, a popular release site a-la somethingreactor is something bound to happen sooner or later, here or over I2P or something else.
that would be a server announcing new inserts ?
If I had to construct such a portal, I would have an edition site publishing new links. People could submit these with NIMs (a freenet basic messaging system), I suppose. This obviously requires some manual work or else coding.
A drawback is that you can't have search capabilities within freenet, so I'd publish in that site periodically a full database of links/descriptions, and maybe bundle an open source search tool or something. If this database were to grown too big some alternative could be studied, like sharing link references in some non-anonymous, searchable P2P network.
I think I'm not saying anything new here. I guess this has no appeal to current communities because there's no way to collect info about users to shell to 3rd parties, or to place tracked ads unless you have a part of the site pointing to externals, so losing part of the anonymity. Also forget about scripting of any kind. It should be plain HTML.
Another thing is that maybe the current freenet is not prepared to support the huge amounts of data that would have to be inserted. Some statistics about the usual datastore sizes could be useful here.
yes. how big is your store ?
Mine is 2GB at present.
and how do you search for files in freenet ?
In short and AFAIK: you can't. Freenet just serves static files, hence static HTML pages. You can't have any kind of server side dynamic pages.
That leaves room for: client-side spiders. There are several ones run by volunteers. TFE, FIND, DFI... These usually generate indexes by category and such. I think another twist would be the one I commented earlier: generating some database and publish some open source tool to search it. That could provide something more akin to a web search like google than just an index. The size of the database would be the problem here. An obvious option is to somebody with appropriate resources do this from a server in the non-anonymous internet, be it for research purposes (since nobody wanting to see something anonymously should use a non-anonymous search engine X( ).
I'm frankly surprised that at this time no ed2k community has attempted to move to some anonymous network. It could simply be that I'm not properly informed.
Regards,
Alex.
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