I still want a spam filter at the server, instead of at my client.  I'm
tired of downloading all the crap then haveing to deal with it.  I'd
rather not even download it.

I just got a phone call from some lady wanting to give me 5000 free long
distance minutes.  I asked her if I would be required to make any phone
calls to turn it off or something, and she said that I would have to call
an 888 number or something to turn it off if I don't like it.  So, I told
her not to even send it, because I don't want the hassle of haveing to
make that call.

I have ADD, and that means that I tend to forget to do things.  Things
like turn off services that I don't need or want.  I really don't like it
when people to try OBLIGATE me to DO something about something I don't
even need or want.  I HATE it.

She rudely hung up on me before I could finish by the way. :( GRRR!

On Thu, 10 Jan 2002 15:43:42 -0800 "Josh" <josh at mercuryfs.net> writes:
True, but newer spam filters can detect when the TO: field is filled with
many random combinations. I?m switching to an ISP who?s got procmail and
with that comes some cool filtering abilities. 

I remember getting those types of emails with the ISP I use to get
connected, so I just never used that email account. They would generate
addresses using a dictionary attack method. Funny, I remember thinking ?I
could code a script to bounce these types of messages??. Now I find out
others already did.

-----Original Message-----
From: chat-ad...@freenetproject.org
[mailto:chat-admin at freenetproject.org]On Behalf Of krepta at juno.com
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 12:15 PM
To: chat at freenetproject.org
Subject: Re: [freenet-chat] source of spam


On Wed, 9 Jan 2002 18:48:33 -0800 "Josh" <josh at mercuryfs.net> writes:
> Hey guys, I've got an off topic question for ya.
> 
> Is it possible to remove our email addresses from the email 
> archives?
> 
> I know that I started getting spam when I first posted on this list, 
> because
> it was the first list I've ever joined (haven't been online since
> compuserve), and the spam started after that.
> 
> When I search for my email address on the net, the archived messages 
> come
> up, and I'm certain that's how my addresses are getting into the 
> spam.
> 
> I'm also switching ISPs so I can get some anti spam features, but I 
> figure
> this probably affects all of us, not just me.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> - josh

There is another way the spammers find you my friend.  Their computers
send a single message to a truely MASSIVE number of randomly generated
email addresses, you can see a list of them in the TO: and CC: fields
sometimes.  I have been victimized in this way many times.  No matter
WHAT email address I use, even if I NEVER give it out to any one online,
I eventualy get flooded with spam crap.  Why?  Because they are like a
school of piranha, constantly on the hunt for new email addresses to
bombard.  There is no where to hide, no where to run.  They WILL find
you.

My email addresses are usualy Krepta at something.tic or
Krepta####@something.tic, it does't matter, they always find me.  I've
seen how they work.  My dad setup an email address on MSN and NO ONE was
told about the address.  It was a completely unique address, unguessable
by anyone but a machine spewing random addresses.  And that is exactly
what happened.  As soon as they found an address that didn't return a
"Address not found" response, they knew they had me.  So they flooded me
with stuff, and put my address on other databases either by selling the
information or just giving it away.  So I was soon being bombarded by
lots of different companies.  I just gave up on getting mail from MSN,
until MSN decided to implement thier anti-spam technology. :)

Anyway, it doesn't matter if we remove our email addresses from the
public archives, they will still find us, eventualy.
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