For an extra $10 a month you can get a spam free email account from another
ISP. The ISP that gets you online doesn't have to be the one that you use
for email. I'd recommend signing up for a .name domain, so you can get a
life long email address. Then when the spam gets too bad, move it over to a
better ISP.

As for the phone number, I wouldn't give it out if I was you or else the
voice spam will never stop. I ALWAYS give the wrong phone numbers when they
are required. I used to have a local phone company test number that was
always busy, but they changed it on me (you bastards!). So now I just give
them the local police department phone number (not the emergency line).

I do this for credit cards, bank accounts, any time of internet account,
etc. Now that I think about it, I only give my correct number to my friends.
Everyone else gets the wrong number.

When I get junk snail mail, I use their enclosed postage paid envelopes to
mail it back to them so they have to pay for the postage.

Having ADD must make it difficult to code! Now that I think about it, I must
have it too. I know! Speed is the answer! Snort a line to tweak and you'll
be paying attention for SURE?!?!

"So, who can tell me the color of Joe's sweater in the third chapter?" (they
're all asleep and Kenny is banging his head on the wall) "Oh my, they all
have ADD. It's Ritalin for all of you!"

-----Original Message-----
From: chat-admin at freenetproject.org [mailto:chat-ad...@freenetproject.org]On
Behalf Of krepta at juno.com
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 6:34 PM
To: chat at freenetproject.org
Subject: Re: [freenet-chat] source of spam

I still want a spam filter at the server, instead of at my client.  I'm
tired of downloading all the crap then haveing to deal with it.  I'd rather
not even download it.

I just got a phone call from some lady wanting to give me 5000 free long
distance minutes.  I asked her if I would be required to make any phone
calls to turn it off or something, and she said that I would have to call an
888 number or something to turn it off if I don't like it.  So, I told her
not to even send it, because I don't want the hassle of haveing to make that
call.

I have ADD, and that means that I tend to forget to do things.  Things like
turn off services that I don't need or want.  I really don't like it when
people to try OBLIGATE me to DO something about something I don't even need
or want.  I HATE it.

She rudely hung up on me before I could finish by the way. :( GRRR!

On Thu, 10 Jan 2002 15:43:42 -0800 "Josh" < josh at mercuryfs.net
<mailto:josh at mercuryfs.net> > writes:
True, but newer spam filters can detect when the TO: field is filled with
many random combinations. I'm switching to an ISP who's got procmail and
with that comes some cool filtering abilities.

I remember getting those types of emails with the ISP I use to get
connected, so I just never used that email account. They would generate
addresses using a dictionary attack method. Funny, I remember thinking "I
could code a script to bounce these types of messages".... Now I find out
others already did.

-----Original Message-----
From: chat-admin at freenetproject.org [mailto:chat-ad...@freenetproject.org]On
Behalf Of krepta at juno.com
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 12:15 PM
To: chat at freenetproject.org
Subject: Re: [freenet-chat] source of spam


On Wed, 9 Jan 2002 18:48:33 -0800 "Josh" < josh at mercuryfs.net
<mailto:josh at mercuryfs.net> > writes:
> Hey guys, I've got an off topic question for ya.
>
> Is it possible to remove our email addresses from the email
> archives?
>
> I know that I started getting spam when I first posted on this list,
> because
> it was the first list I've ever joined (haven't been online since
> compuserve), and the spam started after that.
>
> When I search for my email address on the net, the archived messages
> come
> up, and I'm certain that's how my addresses are getting into the
> spam.
>
> I'm also switching ISPs so I can get some anti spam features, but I
> figure
> this probably affects all of us, not just me.
>
> Thanks,
>
> - josh

There is another way the spammers find you my friend.  Their computers send
a single message to a truely MASSIVE number of randomly generated email
addresses, you can see a list of them in the TO: and CC: fields sometimes.
I have been victimized in this way many times.  No matter WHAT email address
I use, even if I NEVER give it out to any one online, I eventualy get
flooded with spam crap.  Why?  Because they are like a school of piranha,
constantly on the hunt for new email addresses to bombard.  There is no
where to hide, no where to run.  They WILL find you.

My email addresses are usualy Krepta at something.tic
<mailto:Krepta at something.tic>  or Krepta####@something.tic
<mailto:Krepta####@something.tic> , it does't matter, they always find me.
I've seen how they work.  My dad setup an email address on MSN and NO ONE
was told about the address.  It was a completely unique address, unguessable
by anyone but a machine spewing random addresses.  And that is exactly what
happened.  As soon as they found an address that didn't return a "Address
not found" response, they knew they had me.  So they flooded me with stuff,
and put my address on other databases either by selling the information or
just giving it away.  So I was soon being bombarded by lots of different
companies.  I just gave up on getting mail from MSN, until MSN decided to
implement thier anti-spam technology. :)

Anyway, it doesn't matter if we remove our email addresses from the public
archives, they will still find us, eventualy.

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