On Sun, Jan 06, 2002 at 10:34:51PM -0800, Josh wrote:
> > So your proof that there is no government cover-up of UFOs is:
> >     1.  if there were, there would be a lot of leaked information,
> >             since the government can't keep secrets
> 
> Correct! There is no solid proof, and that's an established fact. I'm not
> going to go into a classic skeptics dialogue here, but you guys lack solid
> proof. It's as simple as that.

Who are "you guys?"

> > 2.  all the leaked information that is out there is wrong because
>       > that is what the magic 8 ball told you
> 
> But it's an alien 8 ball, and that's why I believe in it. You don't see the
> parallels here's do you? The fact is, you want to believe that UFOs have
> arrived, when NASA and other's have taken the time to dismiss people like
> you again and again.

Stop telling me what I want to believe.  The only beliefs I have
expounded on this thread are about the correct application of
scientific method and logical reasoning.  You're telling me NASA is
against that?

> > 3.  therefore there really isn't any leaked information
> 
> Correct, because so far there is nothing that has been agreed upon by the
> world that proves that a UFO crashed and that we are covering it up. Instead
> we have a bunch of kooks who keep flaming the fire's of ignorance and
> engulfing the next generation of kids, who usually grow out of it and they
> come to understand the government and how people are. We gossip too much,
> we're social creatures. Secrets and conspiracies rarely stay secret unless
> each of the parties are strongly motivated to so.
> 
> There is a big difference between believing that a UFO crashed in America,
> and we covered it up, than to argue if they could exist and may someday
> contact us. Those are two completely different issues. I'm saying that the
> first issue is next to impossible.

Either:
a) 100% of the information available about UFOs is false,
   and there has never been any cover-up
b) some of the available information is in fact true and there has been
   some cover-up

I submit that you are unqualified to decree which is the case.  One
would have to spend years studying this to begin to know.  You cannot
assume that something has been proven true or false on the basis of
popular opinion.

> > I respectfully acquiesce to your rigorous and superior school of
> > dialectic.
> 
> So you've got a magic 8 ball too then!  The x-files have gotten to you my
> friend.

I don't watch the X-files.

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:: tavin cole (tcole at espnow.com) ::


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