Travis, I thought you were starting to learn to avoid Mark's trolls.

> On Sun, Jan 06, 2002 at 08:37:12PM -0600, Mark J Roberts wrote:
> > Travis Bemann:
> > > government is amoral and has no ethics
> > 
> > Why, then, does our government punish criminals and not innocent
> > people? Why does it fight murderous totalitarian communism, and not
> > wage war on democracy and our free market?
> > 
> > Despite whatever paranoid, drug-induced ramblings the admitted
> > communist and pedophile (he "earned" his doctorate with sexual
> > favors) Noam Chomsky exudes from the ivory tower, the simple and
> > obvious fact is that our government rocks.
> 
> And did you forget all the stuff he did with linguistics...  Talk
> about ad hominem - those two words adequately describe at least this
> whole paragraph of yours.
> 
> > > the optimum state of government is eternal war externally and
> > > totalitarianism internally
> > 
> > I know you leftists are pining for eternal war and totalitarianism,
> > it's not a big secret - you support Soviet imperialism and Osama Bin
> > Laden, remember? (In fact, your raving pinko leader Chomsky recently
> > traveled to Pakistan to incite anti-American hatred and support for
> > the totalitarian Taliban theocracy.)
> 
> LOL.  Anyways, I meant "optimum" as in optimum from the position of a
> politician, not as in being good in any respect.  The natural state of
> government, of the state, is essentially fascism, and you should have
> noticed this if you paid any real attention to history.  And you
> didn't noticed that I said what I did as a criticism of government,
> not as supporting it...
> 
> > > this is concealed by the propaganda organs of capitalism
> > 
> > Yes, that's right, surely anyone who does not support mass murder
> > and famine and communism has been duped by the capitalist propaganda
> > organs. I must agree it's quite effective.
> > 
> > > non-ruling class life is purely expendable - any views that appear
> > > otherwise are really just propaganda
> > 
> > So you've said, you smug communist butcher.
> 
> LOL.  You can't tell the difference between an anarchist and a
> Bolshevik or Stalinist, it seems...  Despite history showing that
> they're quite different in not just theory but practice.
> 
> > > The law means fucking nothing.  Period.
> > 
> > Of course communists such as yourself have no respect for the law.
> > Take your Marxist legal theory and your Gulag and move to North
> > Korea where they'll be appreciated. Please, go.
> 
> Yeah.  I'm really going to go leave AND become a Stalinist because you
> say so.  Yeah right.  You don't even attempt to argue rationally, but
> instead just use ad hominem attacks...
> 
> -- 
> Yes, I know my enemies.
> They're the teachers who tell me to fight me.
> Compromise, conformity, assimilation, submission, ignorance,
> hypocrisy, brutality, the elite.
> All of which are American dreams.
> 
>               - Rage Against The Machine


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