Sorry, did not explain that very well. Unlike most APL systems, Dyalog allows 
the result of an expression to be a function/verb. So as J allows you to write:

      add =: +

Dyalog allows

      add←+
or    add←{a+w}

Now, while ". in J seems not to want to return verbs or (and you CAN understand 
its reluctance), the Dyalog execute primitive is less picky ("Explicit" in J 
seems a rather odd beast too, even the term "special syntax" doesn't quite seem 
sufficient to describe the workings of 3:0 :-)). So you can write:

      add←exec'{a+w}'

... after which:

      add/1 2 3
6

... and if you load up the dfns workspace which contains a "user-defined" rank 
operator (http://www.dyalog.dk/dfnsdws/n_rank.htm):

      1 2  (add rank 0 1) 2 2 {reshape} 10 20 30 40
11 21
32 42

Morten

-----Original Message-----
From: Raul Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 24. december 2007 14:09
To: Chat forum
Subject: Re: [Jchat] J readability

On Dec 24, 2007 4:53 AM, Morten Kromberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Also, I don't see how 3: can be "more flexible than DFNS".
> I can use execute to turn a string into a DFN, which surely
> gives me the same functionality as 3: ?

I am not familiar enough with the syntactic capabilities of Dyalog's
execute to say for sure.

But, 3 : can be used in place, with modifiers or any other part
of J's execution capability.

Also, I tend to think of 3 : not as an entity to itself but as
an instance of the : operator.  So things that hold for 3 :
also hold for 0 :, for 1 :, for 2 :, for 4 : and maybe for 13 :
(I do tend to think of u : as something not so related,
because u : does not treat strings, nor boxed strings,
nor 0 in the same fashion as the other : forms treat
them.)

Anyways, can you use ({thorn}DFN)/1 2 3 in Dyalog,
as a simple example?  (Practical examples in
J are more likely to use the rank conjunction, but I do
not want to push this into territory I know is currently
irrelevant.)

-- 
Raul
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