This is EXACTLY the reasoning behind our pricing scheme: We have the low
cost entry level (and free educational license), and suggest to customers
that the correct long term choice is the 2% royalty contract. 

"Socialism"? If you like... I hear the President of the United States is a
"socialist" these days, although us Scandinavians have a hard time
recognizing it ;-)

We SHOULD make the non-commercial license free, but we haven't gotten the
hang of not giving support yet, so we're trying to be sure that the people
who pick one up are *really* interested, by charging them $75. We need to
streamline our organization a wee bit more and I think we'll be there. We've
released about 200 free educational licenses so far this year, and it hasn't
been a terrible burden.

-----Original Message-----
From: Ian Clark [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: 28. maj 2009 01:11
To: Chat forum
Subject: Re: [Jchat] No More APL

Morten tells us that we shouldn't work for nothing.

I do agree.

But let's distinguish between routine / standard work, and pioneering work.

Every routine activity has a rate for the job, and it is wrong / silly
/ unethical / unbusinesslike to offer to work for below the going
rate. Any union will tell you that. So will any professional
association. Price-wars are destructive and ultimately benefit nobody.

But a pioneer must not expect to be recompensed for the real value of
what s/he has gifted the world. That is something that can only be
judged in retrospect -- and infant mortality among pioneers is high.
So high in fact, that a pioneer cannot expect to be recompensed at
all. Unless the quest be its own reward.

Now J (for me) is a tool for pioneering tasks. APL (for me) is a
"business" -- in every sense.

Let me emphasise this is a personal view, born of my experience and
current needs. If my shoes don't fit you, please don't stand in them.

Ian


On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 4:38 PM, Tracy Harms <[email protected]> wrote:
> Matthew Brand replied to Morten Kromberg:
>
>>> True. Dyalog is only "cheap and easy to install"
>>
>> It's cheap but not free.
>
> By the standards of most of the Linux world, J is not free either. I
> personally have no difficulty with J Software's implementation not
> being open source, but it's important enough to some that we should
> take care not to imply that it is in that category.
>
> Tracy
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