> I also agree in packaging the scripts into a stand-alone package.

That would be nice, wouldn't it.

Dyalog APL already solves the problem, IMHO adequately enough, on
Handango. I'm looking for ways to do it in J, but I have other things
on my mind at the moment. I expect it will turn out to be a licencing
problem, not a technical one.

Ian



On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 10:05 AM, Alex Rufon <[email protected]> wrote:
> I also agree in packaging the scripts into a stand-alone package.
>
> One of the main concept our my use with J is writing a wrapper class to hide 
> its nitty-gritty (like initialization, loading scripts, finalization). By 
> using a wrapper class, you can create a stub application that would load your 
> J scripts and run them. You can then treat this stub as your "framework" for 
> each package that you distribute. ;)
>
> I hope I was able to explain that clearly. :-SS
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
> Behalf Of Oleg Kobchenko
> Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 3:37 PM
> To: Chat forum
> Subject: Re: [Jchat] J for the iPhone
>
>
> It will be more successful if you package the scripts into
> stand-alone applications ready to use, without exposing
> the underlying J platform.
>
> It could be packaged so that the platform is reused if
> coming with multiple apps. A reference inside About would
> guide curious developers to how it was built and possibly
> generate some additional interest.
>
>
> Frink is not gonna make it to iPhone, as it does not have Java
> and the policy does not allow apps with programming ability.
>
> The closest to J is graphing tools with computer algebra, eg
>  http://www.spacetime.us/iphone/ at $20, one of priciest apps
>
> or spreadsheets
>  http://www.macworld.com/article/138784/2009/02/iphonespreadsheet.html
>
> I am not sure if the policy allows linking to a shared library
> provided in closed source. That would be necessary to write apps
> in J without exposing the J programming itself.
>
>
>
>> From: Ian Clark <[email protected]>
>>
>> There's a version of J602 you can download free for Windows Mobile
>> devices. I have it installed on my HP iPAQ. I've been able to verify
>> (at least in principle) that I can develop under Win2000 and move the
>> scripts to the iPAQ to run them. Of course it's best to start by
>> modifying the (fairly elaborate) freebie scripts that come with the
>> Windows Mobile version. These serve as sample code for the iPAQ GUI
>> for most if not all of what I think I'm going to need. It's not as if
>> the iPAQ GUI is that complicated... :-)
>>
>> I plan to try selling the scripts on Handango. It'll be a bit like
>> selling batter mix (just add eggs, flour and milk).
>>
>> Ian
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 7:47 AM, Alan K. Stebbens
>> wrote:
>> > On Jun 1, 2009, at 11:27 PM, Alex Rufon wrote:
>> >
>> >> J for the iPhone!
>> >>
>> >> Hahaha. Just had to get that off my chest.
>> >
>> > Are you laughing because the idea is ludicrous, or are you laughing
>> > from the pleasure of the idea?
>> >
>> > If the former, please explore the Frink pages at:
>> >
>> > http://futureboy.us/frinkdocs/faq.html#SmallDevices
>> >
>> > More information is at http://handhelds.freshmeat.net/projects/frinklang
>> >
>> > If Frink can be run on small devices, being a Java app, surely J can
>> > be run on small devices also (not 64-bit J, of course).
>> >
>> > I'd much rather be able to noodle around with J code on my handheld,
>> > than play solitare or sudoku.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Alan
>
>
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