I wonder what the age distribution of J users is compared to that of other languages. I suspect that it is skewed to the wiser age groups.
<20 0 20-30 0 30-40 1 40-50 0 50-60 0 60-70 0 >70 0 2009/8/26 Alex Rufon <[email protected]>: > I too get the same feeling. > > I only get support from people not coming in from a programming background or > doesn't have a .NET programmer as an advisor. I've had recommended J to > engineering students, some old classmates who's into statistics and some > teacher friends. The funny thing is, my ward who's studying engineering is > using it in his pocket pc and my friend who's primarily a teacher and taking > her PHD actually dropped R and switched to J. One notable thing is, both > these person never asked me about J again after I introduced it to them ... > but after a while showed me how they were using J in what they do. > > I even showed them the J mailing list and they didn't sign up. Hehehe. > > Me and my wife had this discussion for a while now and one of the conclusions > is that because J is not mainstream. I mean besides us dinosaurs in the > office, we actually have a high turnover of programmers. Particularly with > the freeze hiring for permanent positions ... we have a lot of contractual > over the years and they tend to concentrate on what's NEW from Microsoft > since they would need that NEW skill for their next job. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Matthew Brand > Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 5:24 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Jchat] [Jprogramming] The way we think > > I have found programmers to be extremely hostile to J. I do not know > where that comes from. It is very strange. > > It is like sitting next to a man almost dying of thirst who has only a > moist sponge to suck on and you offer him a glass of water, but he > says, "no thanks, I will continue to suck on the sponge ... that is > what all the others did before they died of thirst, nobody else is > drinking water. Besides, I don't want to have to teach the next guy > how to drink water from a glass, he will already be trained to suck on > sponges." > > > 2009/8/21 Steven Taylor <[email protected]>: >> I had to share this. Using J I was recently able to solve an n-dimensional >> mapping problem using a J array with a shape vector. The solution needed 4 >> operations. Moving this back to the C / C# world the other developer >> couldn't see that it was a complete solution. Instead he is now busy >> recreating this in an inefficient tree, or as I suggested, if it must be >> this way, go ahead and use a hash map. >> "This isn't the way you do it in .net", he said. "You need references and >> pointers", he continued. In his own words he wanted to go for a "zero >> intelligence solution"... but it seems to me more like, "zero intelligence >> but how can I use all the fancy new toys to make it more complex". Oh, and >> substitute "more complex" with "more maintainable" to >> be politically correct. >> >> --Steven >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
