VisualWorks is nice, but it's UI starts looking dated. Don't you find Squeak much more inspiring?
In J there is Smalltalk-like tool called "cobrowse" http://www.jsoftware.com/jwiki/Addons/gui/util Follow the SVN link to see how it is implemented--it's just one script. One useful pattern in VisualWorks GUI is its extensive use of binding data structures controls automatically. Such as in form designer you can specify data source and which elements are bound as data, labels etc. J controls like Plot or Grid require imperative specification of data programmatically. Another inspiration Smalltalk offspring is web-based framework Seaside, mentioned earlier by Boyko Bantchev http://www.jsoftware.com/pipermail/chat/2007-March/000451.html Employing "web continuations" it could realize the idea of cloud J sessions to act an iPhone app for example. There is also a terrific programming environment, which is a cross of Smalltalk and APL (in general sense) called F-Script, which turns the whole Mac OS X into Squeak integrating natively with its APIs. Contemporary Macs draw direct lineage from the original Smalltalk by Alan Kay together with pioneering GUI tradition. >From previous postings http://www.jsoftware.com/pipermail/chat/2007-November/000627.html http://www.jsoftware.com/pipermail/chat/2007-March/000424.html It was first introduced by Michael Nardell in http://www.jsoftware.com/pipermail/chat/2006-October/000138.html ----- Original Message ---- > From: emptist <[email protected]> > > Hi, all > > I made a workspace (extending the original VisualWorks NonComercial one) to > enable editing/translating Chinese J source to J script. It can be used to > create new or open existing Chinese script in text area and than hit ctrl+j > to translate, as well as typing in the input area and get translated line > by line as shown in attached image. I'll wait until VisualWorks's 7.7 > release to build a executable for those who are Chinese speaking and just > have started learning J( free ). > I really hope J will support Unicode words. > > http://www.nabble.com/file/p25503286/jws.jpg > > > Alan K. Stebbens wrote: > > > > > > I see some value in applying your ideas to create "wizards" that will > > help practitioners of other computer languages to learn J. For > > example, taking the most common idioms from other languages and > > providing a semi-automatic translator, it may be possible to help > > transition curious programmers of other languages into the World of J? > > > > As you did with Smalltalk, perhaps a good excuse for better learning J > > might be to write a J program for converting idioms from popular > > languages (eg: ruby, python, C) might be useful? > > [.............] > > etc. > > > > This might help convert entire methods into functionally equivalent J > > code. > > > > Of course, J is sufficiently different that this won't work for large > > bodies of code -- only small, relatively simple algorithms. But, it > > might be interesting to see what such a translator spits out for > > increasingly larger code fragments. > > > > Kind of a bottom-up translator. > > > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://www.nabble.com/finally%2C-I%27ve-made-tiny-Smalltalk-program-for-ChineseJ-tp25435672s24193p25503286.html > Sent from the J Chat mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
