thanks Dan

yes, i overstated it and have felt bad about it

+  -  *  ^   > = <  !  etc are internationally meaningful, a lovely truly 
international language

after that things are less and less and less meaningful to ordinary people , 
and mind boggling to beginners in J

this is unlike the trend in most all of modern computing which likes to make 
itself available to everyone with the computer allowing for variations in human 
input, best exemplified by wolfram alpha

and true, i do not wish to learn chinese, and yes, I would like to do some nice 
math / computing.

thanks
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