Hi Ian, I completely agree with you regarding the necessity for novice input before we decide on the appropriate animation to implement, but at the moment I feel as if we are in the development stage of this process. Any input is welcome to widen the diversity of options. Later we will need to be more careful about which feedback carries the most weight in the final(?) choices. The limited experience I have had in Action Research [1] suggests this approach could work well, and the feedback could be subjective as well as objective.
Cheers, bob [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Action_research On -Mar7-2010, at -Mar7-20105:25 PM, Ian Clark wrote: >> I love the challenge of augmenting what the novice does not notice, but it >> does present a bit of a chicken and egg issue. > > Sorry to bang on about it, but IME to design anything to be novice > friendly without objective input from novices is never anything but an > exercise in self-deception. I know M$ does it all the time, and always > has, (remember the paperclip?) -- but does that sanctify it? > > It's not "chicken and egg". But it is tedious. One "simply" has to > gather a panel of the actual audience (J novices) and design a proper > experiment. (Anyone married to a schoolteacher?) > >> Let me know if the number of videos in NuVoc Plus is becoming a problem. > > Can't see it being a problem just yet. > > Ian > > > > On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 3:24 PM, bob therriault <[email protected]> wrote: >> Hey Ian, >> >> I love the challenge of augmenting what the novice does not notice, but it >> does present a bit of a chicken and egg issue. We need more novices to >> provide this information and we need the information to become more >> attractive to novices. :) >> >> For now, I am content to collect feedback and enlarge my bag of tricks. Let >> me know if the number of videos in NuVoc Plus is becoming a problem. I would >> like achieve a balance between choice and information overload, so that >> different options are presented without exhausting the viewer through >> repetition of the same theme. I plan to add one more animation based on >> Harvey's sliding matrices, and after that I will either update existing >> animations, or replace low response options with new approaches. >> >> Thanks for keeping me on my toes. >> >> Cheers, bob >> >> ps. Feedback from anyone who is new to J would be incredibly valuable to us. >> It does not need to be deep and insightful, I would be happy just to know >> which animations you think suck or don't suck. If you can tell me why, that >> is even better! bt >> >> On -Mar6-2010, at -Mar6-20101:09 AM, Ian Clark wrote: >> >>> I too am a big fan of Cirque du Soleil. I've watched my Quidam DVD >>> I-don't-know-how-many times, and I still spot new things going on >>> on-stage. And the hula-hoops girl in Alegria haunts my dreams (and >>> give me backache ;) >>> >>> Ignore my gripe about complexity: the vids can be played again and again. >>> >>> I'm still a bit concerned over relating it all to what a novice would >>> see in the J session. Not that I think the session should be >>> explicitly represented. But a demo anime has a more restricted scope >>> than a Cirque production: it's really only to augment what we discover >>> the novice *not* to notice in the J session itself. >>> >>> Ian >>> >>> >>> >>> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
