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I don't think it should matter what percent costs us how much.  The point is
people who choose not to protect themselve should not get any aid.  There
should be seatbelt and helmet requirements not laws.  As in, you are required
to wear it, if you choose not to and get hurt because of it, you're on your
own.  No government aid.  No punishment for not doing it, but you are
rewarded by doing it.  More like a covenant, don't follow the rules, fine.  But
good luck.

I don't know why people wouldn't wear a seatbelt anyway.  Although with a
nonretractable shoulder belt, as in my Chevelle, I can't reach the vent knobs
and can barely get to the window crank, but I manage.  So don't give me crap
about it being restrictive or uncomfortable.

Tim.
Proud Owner: '69 Chevelle

On 22-Jun-2001 Steve Allen wrote:
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> Frank Evan Perdicaro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Check the REAL FACTS with the CDC, IIA, AMA and other organizations
>> that collect REAL DATA, not opinions.
> 
> NHTSA doesn't count?
> 
> "According to a 1996 NHTSA study of 10 states, 24 percent of inpatient
> hospital
> costs are paid by Medicare, Medicaid, and other government sources. NHTSA
> estimates that if seat belt usage rates for front seat passengers in
> automobiles and light trucks were to increase from the present 68 percent
> to 85 percent, Medicare and Medicaid would save $275 million a year.
> With a 90 percent use rate, the savings would total $356 million a year!"
> 
> http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/people/injury/airbags/presbelt/everyone_problems.html
> 
> 
> Oh, hey, the CDC says:
> 
> "Editorial Note: In 1983, nearly 30,000 occupants of automobiles died on U.S.
> highways. Only 484 (2%) were reportedly wearing seat belts (1). Seat belts
> could prevent at least 60% of serious injuries to older children, teenagers,
> and adults in automobile collisons (2). Similarly, properly used child
> restraints could prevent virtually all serious injuries to infants and
> younger children (3)."
> 
> http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/00000596.htm
> 
> 
> "Universal Motorcycle Helmet Laws *Reduce Costs to Society*"
> (Emphasis in the source)
> 
> "Helmet Laws Reduce Public Payout Helmet laws significantly
> reduce the strain on public resources. Unhelmeted riders cost more to treat
> at
> the hospital, spend a longer time in rehabilitation, and are more likely to
> require some form of public assistance to for pay medical bills and
> rehabilitation. In 1991, prior to enacting its helmet law, California?s state
> medical insurance program paid $40 million for the treatment of
> motorcycle-related head injuries. That figure dropped to $24 million after
> enactment of a universal helmet law."
> 
> http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/people/injury/pedbimot/safebike/costs.html
> 
> 
> More from the CDC:
> 
> "safety belts are 45%--60% effective in reducing deaths and 50%--65%
> effective
> in reducing moderate-to-critical injuries (21)"
> 
> 21. National Highway Traffic Safety Administration. Traffic safety facts
> 1999:
> occupant protection. Washington, DC: US Department of Transportation,
> National
> Highway Traffic Safety Administration, 2000; publication no. DOT HS 809 090.
> 
> http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/rr5007a1.htm
> 
> 
> 
> What was that you said about checking facts?
> 
> 
> Yeah, I know the old saw about "lies, damn lies and statistics", and that
> for every source that someone pulls up that shows one opinion, someone can
> pull up one that says the exact opposite.
> 
> Let's see _your_ links.
> 
> 
> ~Steve
> 
> 
> -- 
> Steven R. Allen - SGI Admin Weenie
> http://www.eskimo.com/~wormey/
> 
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> It just happens to be selective about who it makes friends with.
> 
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