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no, in PA, it requires a 6 month permit, then you take yor
test. if you pass, you get your liscense.
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Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 12:16
AM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Driving/Car
Saftey
Chad... every kid thinks they are mature and know dang near everything at
your age. I'm not asking for a full fledge confession or anything. Just think
about some of the comments. I don't agree with all the things said... I can
hardly know who you really are behind your message, but you seem to sounds
like as soon as you turn 16 you get your license. That is expecting it to be
handed to you at age 16!!! You didn't say turn 16 so I can earn my license or
anything like that. Obviously this is not the House or the Senate, so you
don't need to worry about anything changing before you turn 16, but please do
think about some of the things said. And some day you will be on our side of
the fence. The best example I can give is bicyclists. You probably ride one
know and think they are fine, but I guarantee 6 months behind the wheel will
have you hating them more the ever! They ride in the road, hold up traffic,
dart across red lights, etc.
I have not and will not say anything about your maturity Chad, but I will
say I have never seen a 16 year old who is as mature as they think they are or
who is as mature as a 21, 22, or 25 year old. I'm sure your are mature for
your age and you obviously have good tastes in vehicles... but just think
before you do.
Mikey
----- Original Message -----
From:
Chad Playso
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 4:25
PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List]
Driving/Car Saftey
yea - i guess i can see it from your point of
view. but i feel more mature from most kids my age and i do and will
respect cars (older ones - that is). in my opinion - everyone has
something that they look back and say i wished i did this - or listened to
him...but what do you mean that i think its my right to drive a car? i
mean - i am happy to start driving - and its a thing that most kids like me
are looking forward to...well - im not offended anymore - but if the law
changed from 16 years of age to 18 - im gonna be pi$$ed.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 2:11
PM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List]
Driving/Car Saftey
Yeah Chad... Sorry, I figured you would reply on this one, but
believe me if everyone over the age of 25 voted, I think a large number
would agree. I mean just the maturaty level jump is huge between 16 and 18
is huge. It happens again at 21 and it seems about your mid twenties most
people have grown up at least in reguards to more serious matters. When I
was your age I knew everything and I was invincable, but now that I am
older I look back and say I wish I listened to my dad... or I wish I did
this instead of this. Wait till you hit your mid twenties... heck I'm
afraid of what I'll be saying when I'm forty or fifty.
I know how you feel and you can hardly wait to drive, but I know I
did some plain flat dumb things at that age and I see even worse stuff
then that everyday from young drivers. Obviously not all young drivers do
stupid stuff, but I know the statistics show most young drivers get into
more accidents and more tickets then any other age group. I just finally
emerged from the under 25 bracket and wow did my insurance drop. Reality
would maybe say 16-18 yr olds can only drive during such hours or on such
roads, much like when you get a permit for a motorcycle. I'm sure you will
be at least a smart drive Chad as you won't want to bang up a Chevelle or
mustang or whatever, but most kids don't have that pride in their car.
Also driving like any skill will get better as you do it more. I think we
all made some young and dumb blunders in our day.
Don't feel bad Chad... I don't pick on young driver's other then
that. I'm the same way with DWI's. Just way too loose of rules. There are
just too many people who shouldn't be driving. Some elder drivers scare me
as well. Some of them can barely walk, none the less hit the brakes if a
kid was to dart in front of them. Then there are just the unskilled. I was
visiting my mom last weekend and she in reality can't back up a car unless
she goes perfectly straight. She can't parrell park. She can't see very
well at night. I'm sorry to say, she shouldn't be driving with full
privilages. If a guy operating a crane or a tractor was like that...they
would be fired.
Overall... most people today think it is
their right to drive a car, instead of the privilage that it
is.
Dave also mentions some very good points as well.
Mikey
----- Original Message -----
From:
Chad Playso
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002
12:37 PM
To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List]
Driving/Car Saftey
dude - thats offensive! im 15 and i just
CANNOT wait till i drive when im 16 - and then now you say that you want
the driving age to be 18! how did you feel when u started
driving?
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002
12:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List]
Driving/Car Saftey
How about the fact that they pretty much give driver's licenses
away in a box of Cracker Jacks these days. I work about a mile from a
driver's exam station and it is easy to find, but the number of brain
dead morons, lazy people who don't want to take the energy to look at
a map (or the road for signs for that matter), or people who
can't speak english asking for it is unreal. I say "hey... if you
can't find the driver's exam station you already fail map reading,
trip preperation, and sign reading. You fail."
IMO I would raise the driving age for lic. to 18 and keep permits
or restricted lic. at 16. And make a real driving test to pass. I mean
fake kids on bikes flying out from bushes and idiot driver's going
through stop lights on their cell phone heheee.
Mikey
----- Original Message -----
From:
Chevelle 69
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002
11:37 AM
To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Chevelle-List]
Driving/Car Saftey
Which brings up a thought or
two:
We, the people that, in most cases, turn
wrenches on these cars, lift heavy metal parts on and off, install
glass as needed, and know from life's experiences what can happen,
have more of a close "in-touch" relationship with
cars. We have more of a realization of several thousand pounds
of glass and metal flying down the road at speeds unknown to man
just a hundred years ago.
Although some of us are guilty of indulging
in the thrill that a muscle car is so famous for, and I can't say I
won't ever myself. I guess it's like rock climbing or
parachuting......with added dangers for innocent bystanders and
precious classic cars that may not survive to be passed
on.
Compare that to a young person ( and some
older ones ) who only think to get in, turn the key, and press the
pedal farther down to hurry up to get to an "important appointment".
I know that accidents were stressed to me in drivers training many
years ago, but people tend to think it won't happen to them and
what can happen if they are not careful goes to the back of the
mind. Getting there quickly while doing other things that "need" to
get done are what is on their mind.
The thought of the car I am rebuilding not
having many of the safety features of today's cars also plays on my
mind at times. More than once I have wondered what it would take to
install anti-lock brakes and air bags on my 69 Chevelle.
Steve
I agree too! BUT, I've seen people reading
newspapers, shaving, putting on make-up, eating two-fisted
hoagies, etc. while behind the wheel. A lot of people are just
plain oblivious to the dangers of distraction behind the wheel. My
point is where do you stop? The starting point should, in my
opinion, be better driver ed programs.
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