Not sure what guages you are using to read the temp, but if it is a mechanical 
one, you might want to test it (it is fairly easy) to be sure the readings 
that you are getting are accurate.  I struggled with a similar problem years 
ago and then discovered that my guage was reading 15 degrees high and I really 
didn't have the problem that I though I had.

Just a thought.
Gene
> OK, thanks guys...
> a 180 it is then...
> I'll see what happens with that..
> I have a brand new chrome water pump I was waiting till winter to put on, if the 
> stat doesn't help much, I'll put the pump on and see what happens..
> BTW, the shroud is tight, the fan is inside the shroud, and I recently had the 
> rad. flow and pressure tested... 
> 
> Hey Dave... 480 Westbound?? where on the map are you located??
> 
> 
> Dan McIntosh
> Pavement Scraping 1964 Impala SS
> http://www.alloldchevy.com
> 
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   Wrom: KBRNVWWCUFPE
>   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>   Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 4:13 PM
>   Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] thermostat recommendations?
> 
> 
>   Dan,  I've always used 180 degree thermostats in my small blocks.  Allegedly, 
> a hotter thermostat will offer a little better milage, while colder ones offer 
> better performance.  In my not-so-humble opinion, I think 160 stats are too cold 
> for street use, although I know many people do run them.  
> 
>    
> 
>   My 400 always runs a little warmer than 180, unless it's below 70 degrees out.  
> This morning, caught in that mess on 480 Westbound, where I idled the better 
> part of three miles, my engine never went over 195.  I have an electric fan from 
> a GM3.8  FWD.  My '72 Elky (stock 350, stock fan & shroud) also runs a 180 
> thermostat and I've never had any problems with it either, although I don't have 
> a temp gauge.
> 
>    
> 
>   210 is on the high end of safe.  At 220, I'd turn the heater on or let the car 
> cool down a bit.
> 
>    
> 
>   As for tips to lower the temp, change the thermostat and make sure the shroud 
> is properly fitted against the radiator.  The fan blades should be partially in 
> the shroud.  I've never used Redline Water Wetter before, but have heard of 
> people having success with it on many occasions.  Also, while not easy to 
> diagnose, the water pump could be suspect if the impeller blades are corroded 
> away, not circulating as much water as it should.
> 
>    
> 
>   -Dave
> 
>    
> 
>    
> 
>   -----Original Message-----
>   Wrom: GAUTFJMVRESKPNKMBIPBARHDMNNSKVFVWR
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dan McIntosh
>   Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 3:59 PM
>   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   Subject: [Chevelle-List] thermostat recommendations?
> 
>    
> 
>   Howdy..
> 
>   On the way to a show the other day, my car got up to about 220�F. I think the 
> current thermostat is a 210�F unit...
> 
>   This was in stop and go traffic on a high 80's, low 90's type of day...
> 
>   I am running the stock 5 blade fan, and a full shroud. It is a 1971 El Camino 
> 350 engine.. in a 1964 Impala
> 
>   Is this a common operating temp for this motor?
> 
>   What do you all commonly do to reduce the temp... I used water wetter in my 
> Mustang, and it seemed to work OK, but it could have been the placebo effect...
> 
>    
> 
>   Thanks people!
> 
>    
> 
>    
> 
>   Dan McIntosh
>   Pavement Scraping 1964 Impala SS
>   http://www.alloldchevy.com
> 

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