Here's #2 Ed
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From: John Garner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 13:50:08 -0700
To: Ed Riggins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: Tim Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Keith Hunwick
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jim Service <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Off Subject - Speeding Ticket for 205 mph
Nothing to that effect in any of the news stories so far, though anything's
possible, I suppose.
Are you perhaps remembering the e-mail sent earlier by Jim Service, which
read:
"by the same token, i stopped by the san fran moto club street party this
summer. they has a portable dyno there and were doing tests on anyone's
bike that came along. one guy's suz gsx-r had over 220 rear wheel hp
(228? 235? can't remember) had a turbo kit. looked completely stock
from the outside."
Regardless, going 205 mph on Highway 61, on a Saturday afternoon of all
times, may be POSSIBLE, but I do not believe it to be in the least bit
PROBABLE. Even with a turbo, nitrous, race gas and the longer gearing that
would be required to avoid exceeding redline.
Oh, by the way, did I mention that when I did 194 mph, the rear tire was
terminally blisterd after only three laps (15 miles) on the oval? It's not
just about horsepower, that is the point. Tires, gearing, aerodynamic
stability and most of all, SPACE, are equal if not greater requirements for
such speeds.
Therefore, I remain skeptical. Nonetheless, you can bet that this story is
gonna tear up the airwaves for the next day or two. -- JG
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From: "Ed Riggins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "John Garner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Tim Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Keith Hunwick"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 1:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Off Subject - Speeding Ticket for 205 mph
> Regardless of the exact model, a possible mistake by the ticketing cop or
> the reporter, I thought one of the earlier postings had indicated the bike
> had a turbocharger or nitrous system or something. ER
>
>
> > From: John Garner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 13:08:54 -0700
> > To: Ed Riggins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Cc: Tim Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Keith Hunwick
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Off Subject - Speeding Ticket for 205 mph
> >
> > What kind of bike, you ask? It's called a "mis-read stopwatch."
> >
> > I've actually read the news item on a Minneapolis newspaper's Website,
and
> > the arrested rider's bike was said to be a "Honda 1000." Of course,
Honda
> > has made more than a few liter-bikes, but the latest, and by far the
> > fastest, is the 2004-model CBR1000RR, built specifically with the
intention
> > of winning the U.S. and British Superbike titles away from Suzuki's
> > best-selling GSX-R1000. More significantly (and for the first time in
> > Honda's history for a STREET bike), its design was led by HRC (Honda
Racing
> > Corporation) which previously had only designed Honda's RACE bikes.
> >
> > Part of HRC's design brief was to make the bike as amenable as possible
to
> > powering-up to full-race tune while staying within the guidelines of the
> > AMA's (and Brit's) Superbike rule books. For example, both
organizations'
> > rule books allow changing fuel injection mapping (or jetting in the case
of
> > carbs), but not the injectors (or carburetors) themselves. So the
CBR1000RR
> > was only the second streetbike in history (Ducati's 996 was the first)
to
> > come from the factory with TWO fuel injectors per cylinder -- one in the
> > normal position downstream of the throttle valve, along with a second
> > ("shower") injector mounted above the bellmouth, which only activates at
> > high RPM & power, but is good for 4 or 5 HP on the top, as well as
improved
> > driveability.
> >
> > Okay, so that's the history of Honda's fastest 1000. Now, American
Honda's
> > leading Superbike rider, Miguel DuHamel, on the longest straightaway to
be
> > found on any U.S. racetrack (Brainerd), on his FULLY race-tuned CBR1000,
was
> > only able to crack 195 mph this year. It is figured by the tuners who
built
> > DuHamel's bike that with a long enough straight (at least 3 miles, by my
> > reckoning -- any idea how fast miles go by at 195 mph?), that he could
have
> > stretched it another mph or two or three (i.e., 196 to 198 mph).
> >
> > Now, the ticket we are discussing was given on Highway 61 (yeah, the
same
> > highway Dylan sang about, where he crashed his Triumph). Highway 61 is a
> > two-lane, meandering country road. I doubt it has any 3-plus mile
staights.
> > And I SERIOUSLY doubt that this guy's CBR had as much juice as DuHamel's
> > rocetship -- much less the 20 or 30 extra horses that would be necessary
to
> > go 10 mph faster than DuHamel did!
> >
> > By the way, various magazine testers have been able to get a bit over
185,
> > but not quite 190, out of their (stock) CBR1000 test bikes, using the
> > EXTREMELY LONG stretches of straight road they've found out in the
Mojave
> > desert.
> >
> > Now, there are 3600 seconds in an hour and 5280 feet in a mile. So 205
miles
> > per hour equates to 300.7 feet per second, which over 4.39 seconds,
covers
> > precisely 1320 feet (or exactly 1/4 mile). So the cop in the chase plane
was
> > measuring the bike's time between two stripes painted a quarter-mile
apart.
> > On the other hand, if the cop somehow mis-read his stopwatch by one
second,
> > then the speed being measured would be 167 mph, which is actually
> > believable.
> >
> > So that's my theory. Feel free to pass it along. -- John G.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Ed Riggins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Jim Service" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Tim Thompson"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "John Garner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Patrick
> > Hook" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Paul Funk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 8:46 AM
> > Subject: FW: [Chevelle-list] Off Subject - Speeding Ticket for 205 mph
> >
> >
> >> What kind of crotch rocket was that? ER
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> >> From: Larry Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Reply-To: Larry Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, The Chevelle Mailing
List
> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 07:22:04 -0700
> >> To: Chevelle Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Subject: [Chevelle-list] Off Subject - Speeding Ticket for 205 mph
> >>
> >> Just thought you guys would get a laugh out of this article.
> >>
> >> Larry Williams
> >>
> >> Sep 22, 7:37 AM EDT
> >>
> >> Minn. Trooper Writes 205 Mph Ticket
> >>
> >> WABASHA, Minn. (AP) -- With a State Patrol airplane overhead, a
> > motorcyclist
> >> hit the throttle and possibly set the informal record for the fastest
> >> speeding ticket in Minnesota history: 205 mph.
> >>
> >> On Saturday afternoon, State Patrol pilot Al Loney was flying near
> > Wabasha,
> >> in southeastern Minnesota on the Wisconsin border, watching two
> >> motorcyclists racing along U.S. Highway 61.
> >>
> >> When one of the riders shot forward, Loney was ready with his
stopwatch.
> > He
> >> clicked it once when the motorcycle reached a white marker on the road
and
> >> again a quarter-mile later. The watch read 4.39 seconds, which Loney
> >> calculated to be 205 mph.
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